i did that on purpose; see it made you laugh.. aaaaay. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Erik Mitchell <erik.mitchell at gmail.com>wrote: > You speled "strictly" wrong! Ha! > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Samael <samael.anon at gmail.com> wrote: > > i am srictly on this list to provide comic relief. > > > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Samael <samael.anon at gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> oh shoot, another unhappy customer... > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> In regards to the VMware discussion thread that I started yesterday. I > >>> now regret it. Honestly it sounds like nobody on this list actually > value's > >>> older software. VMware ESXi 3.5i is 32bit software that does not > require > >>> virtualization on a CPU with the VT extensions. Yes it would help in a > >>> virtual environment, but is not required. And, FYI, there are two > versions > >>> of VMware ESXi 3.5 (32bit) and Vmware ESXi 4 (64bit only). > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> -Dan > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:10 AM, <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>>> > >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >>>> tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > >>>> > >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at > >>>> tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org > >>>> > >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >>>> than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Today's Topics: > >>>> > >>>> 1. Re: Meeting (Robert Nesius) > >>>> 2. Re: Meeting (Ryan Coleman) > >>>> 3. Re: Meeting (Mike Miller) > >>>> 4. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Elvedin Trnjanin) > >>>> 5. Re: Meeting (Erik Mitchell) > >>>> 6. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Tony Yarusso) > >>>> 7. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > >>>> (Patrick "Finn" Robins) > >>>> 8. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Chris Niesen) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> Message: 1 > >>>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:09:27 -0600 > >>>> From: Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting > >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >>>> Message-ID: > >>>> <AANLkTik86sXz=BMPDTHJ-i8whCka4CMc_uDvPvUojZkb at mail.gmail.com> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>>> > >>>> Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the > St. > >>>> Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to > >>>> get > >>>> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was > no > >>>> path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get > >>>> across > >>>> Edina and Bloomington. > >>>> > >>>> -Rob > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V > >>>> <simmonsj at redkeep.com>wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting > to > >>>> > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. > >>>> > > >>>> > Simmons > >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>>> URL: > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110120/7a613433/attachment-0001.htm > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Message: 2 > >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:33:42 -0600 > >>>> From: Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting > >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >>>> Message-ID: <93A87D2B-ED53-42ED-9B61-95AEE9E133B5 at me.com> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>>> > >>>> Robert, > >>>> > >>>> You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot > >>>> Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Ryan > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the > >>>> > St. Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I > tried to > >>>> > get over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour > there was no > >>>> > path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get > across > >>>> > Edina and Bloomington. > >>>> > > >>>> > -Rob > >>>> > > >>>> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V < > simmonsj at redkeep.com> > >>>> > wrote: > >>>> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting > to > >>>> > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. > >>>> > > >>>> > Simmons > >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>>> > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>>> URL: > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/1a9ba17f/attachment-0001.htm > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Message: 3 > >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:03:26 -0600 (CST) > >>>> From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com <mbmiller%2Bl at gmail.com>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting > >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >>>> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1101210100450.31009 at taxa.psych.umn.edu> > >>>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Ryan Coleman wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot > >>>> > Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Sometimes it's even better to get on the river road. Take the West > >>>> river > >>>> road down to Franklin or Lake or Ford and cross over to the East. > From > >>>> there you can get on Rt. 5. You might only to 25 mph, but you won't > hit > >>>> any lights. I've used it to get from the U to the airport at rush > hour > >>>> and it works great. > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Message: 4 > >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:08:59 -0600 > >>>> From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> > >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >>>> Cc: Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> > >>>> Message-ID: <4D39310B.1000801 at umn.edu> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >>>> > >>>> On 1/20/2011 11:31 PM, Dan Smith wrote: > >>>> > Tclug, > >>>> > > >>>> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd > >>>> > start here before having to make another user account in another > >>>> > system somewhere... > >>>> > > >>>> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm > >>>> > looking to find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i > on > >>>> > it. > >>>> ESXi supports less hardware than ESX. If you don't have licenses to > >>>> spare, this means you're a bit out of luck and have to go with the > free > >>>> version which is only limited to ESXi. > >>>> > > >>>> > System Specs are as follows: > >>>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors > >>>> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. > >>>> > 4gb's of ram > >>>> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. > >>>> Generally the storage controller is most likely device not to be > >>>> supported > >>>> > > >>>> > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver > >>>> > LP2000R running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster > >>>> > server until I'm able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or > 2850's > >>>> > to run Hypervisor 4 or have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. > >>>> You may be able to save some money by going with tower servers instead > >>>> of rack mounted ones. Dell typically has great deals on them. > >>>> > > >>>> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware > >>>> > ESX or ESXi product, please let me know. > >>>> No experience with this server model, but you might want to look into > >>>> ESX\ESXi version 2 although you may not be able to get licenses for > it. > >>>> Another option is the hosted VMware Server which runs in Windows or > >>>> Linux as it will more likely support your hardware. > >>>> > > >>>> > Thanks! > >>>> > > >>>> > - > >>>> > Dan > >>>> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com <mailto:dan.smith225 at gmail.com> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>>> > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>>> URL: > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/cad78f9e/attachment-0001.htm > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Message: 5 > >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:55:05 -0600 > >>>> From: Erik Mitchell <erik.mitchell at gmail.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting > >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >>>> Message-ID: > >>>> <AANLkTimmr+fH8vPKnC5iWCFTGkACOrDRW=Cm0f_bprfC at mail.gmail.com> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >>>> > >>>> Robert, > >>>> The Roseville location might not be any worse, although I can't speak > >>>> to traffic. You'd just stay on 694 until you hit 35W, and go south > >>>> from there to 36, and over to Snelling. If traffic is the same I would > >>>> think the travel time from St. Cloud would be the same to Roseville > >>>> and SLP. > >>>> > >>>> -Erik > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the > >>>> > St. > >>>> > Cloud area.? Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried > to > >>>> > get > >>>> > over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there > was > >>>> > no > >>>> > path that wasn't completely stacked up.? Took me 45 minutes to get > >>>> > across > >>>> > Edina and Bloomington. > >>>> > > >>>> > -Rob > >>>> > > >>>> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V < > simmonsj at redkeep.com> > >>>> > wrote: > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting > >>>> >> to > >>>> >> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. > Paul. > >>>> >> Simmons > >>>> >> > >>>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>>> >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>>> >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>>> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>>> >> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer > >>>> erik.mitchell at gmail.com > >>>> erik at ekmitchell.com > >>>> http://ekmitchell.com/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Message: 6 > >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:11:30 -0600 > >>>> From: Tony Yarusso <tonyyarusso at gmail.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >>>> Message-ID: > >>>> <AANLkTi=k+_Bg1ZfTaR=nBu_nzTPTBZ9r4cmzR+ZizOg=@mail.gmail.com> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > System Specs are as follows: > >>>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors > >>>> > >>>> Running a virtualization system on a processor without the > >>>> virtualization instruction set extensions will either be impossible or > >>>> just woefully inadequate, depending on the type. I'm not sure which > >>>> type VMware ESX is, but either way I wouldn't expect this to work > >>>> *well*, if at all. > >>>> > >>>> - Tony > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Message: 7 > >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:32:57 -0600 > >>>> From: "Patrick \"Finn\" Robins" <13.finn at gmail.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >>>> Message-ID: > >>>> <AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe+6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com<AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe%2B6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com> > > > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >>>> > >>>> I have to second that. Virtualization on a CPU without the VT > extensions > >>>> is > >>>> a big performance hit. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -Patrick "Finn" Robins > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't > >>>> matter > >>>> and those who matter don't mind. > >>>> - Dr. Seuss > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>>> URL: > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/20c3a43b/attachment-0001.htm > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Message: 8 > >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:09:30 -0600 > >>>> From: Chris Niesen <chris.niesen at gmail.com> > >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. > >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > >>>> Message-ID: > >>>> <AANLkTimxe-Bbi0Gat1U6zw4Vg=ps4t=snYsA7qGMWiMi at mail.gmail.com> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >>>> > >>>> ESXi requires a 64 bit processor. Don't waste your time. > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > Tclug, > >>>> > > >>>> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd > >>>> > start > >>>> > here before having to make another user account in another system > >>>> > somewhere... > >>>> > > >>>> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm > >>>> > looking to > >>>> > find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it. > >>>> > > >>>> > System Specs are as follows: > >>>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors > >>>> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. > >>>> > 4gb's of ram > >>>> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. > >>>> > > >>>> > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver > >>>> > LP2000R > >>>> > running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster server > until > >>>> > I'm > >>>> > able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's to run > Hypervisor > >>>> > 4 or > >>>> > have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. > >>>> > > >>>> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware > >>>> > ESX or > >>>> > ESXi product, please let me know. > >>>> > > >>>> > Thanks! > >>>> > > >>>> > - > >>>> > Dan > >>>> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>>> URL: > >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/4c0ea402/attachment.htm > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>>> > >>>> End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 73, Issue 40 > >>>> ****************************************** > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org > >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >>> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > -- > Erik K. 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