You speled "strictly" wrong! Ha! On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Samael <samael.anon at gmail.com> wrote: > i am srictly on this list to provide comic relief. > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Samael <samael.anon at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> oh shoot, another unhappy customer... >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> In regards to the VMware discussion thread that I started yesterday. I >>> now regret it. Honestly it sounds like nobody on this list actually value's >>> older software. VMware ESXi 3.5i is 32bit software that does not require >>> virtualization on a CPU with the VT extensions. Yes it would help in a >>> virtual environment, but is not required. And, FYI, there are two versions >>> of VMware ESXi 3.5 (32bit) and Vmware ESXi 4 (64bit only). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Dan >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:10 AM, <tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: Meeting (Robert Nesius) >>>> 2. Re: Meeting (Ryan Coleman) >>>> 3. Re: Meeting (Mike Miller) >>>> 4. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Elvedin Trnjanin) >>>> 5. Re: Meeting (Erik Mitchell) >>>> 6. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Tony Yarusso) >>>> 7. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>>> (Patrick "Finn" Robins) >>>> 8. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Chris Niesen) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:09:27 -0600 >>>> From: Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <AANLkTik86sXz=BMPDTHJ-i8whCka4CMc_uDvPvUojZkb at mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>> Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. >>>> Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to >>>> get >>>> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no >>>> path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get >>>> across >>>> Edina and Bloomington. >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V >>>> <simmonsj at redkeep.com>wrote: >>>> >>>> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to >>>> > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. >>>> > >>>> > Simmons >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110120/7a613433/attachment-0001.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:33:42 -0600 >>>> From: Ryan Coleman <ryanjcole at me.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>>> Message-ID: <93A87D2B-ED53-42ED-9B61-95AEE9E133B5 at me.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Robert, >>>> >>>> You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot >>>> Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ryan >>>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius wrote: >>>> >>>> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the >>>> > St. Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to >>>> > get over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no >>>> > path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get across >>>> > Edina and Bloomington. >>>> > >>>> > -Rob >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to >>>> > solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. >>>> > >>>> > Simmons >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/1a9ba17f/attachment-0001.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:03:26 -0600 (CST) >>>> From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>>> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1101210100450.31009 at taxa.psych.umn.edu> >>>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >>>> >>>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Ryan Coleman wrote: >>>> >>>> > You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot >>>> > Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sometimes it's even better to get on the river road. Take the West >>>> river >>>> road down to Franklin or Lake or Ford and cross over to the East. From >>>> there you can get on Rt. 5. You might only to 25 mph, but you won't hit >>>> any lights. I've used it to get from the U to the airport at rush hour >>>> and it works great. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:08:59 -0600 >>>> From: Elvedin Trnjanin <trnja001 at umn.edu> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>>> Cc: Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >>>> Message-ID: <4D39310B.1000801 at umn.edu> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> On 1/20/2011 11:31 PM, Dan Smith wrote: >>>> > Tclug, >>>> > >>>> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd >>>> > start here before having to make another user account in another >>>> > system somewhere... >>>> > >>>> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm >>>> > looking to find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on >>>> > it. >>>> ESXi supports less hardware than ESX. If you don't have licenses to >>>> spare, this means you're a bit out of luck and have to go with the free >>>> version which is only limited to ESXi. >>>> > >>>> > System Specs are as follows: >>>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors >>>> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. >>>> > 4gb's of ram >>>> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. >>>> Generally the storage controller is most likely device not to be >>>> supported >>>> > >>>> > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver >>>> > LP2000R running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster >>>> > server until I'm able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's >>>> > to run Hypervisor 4 or have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. >>>> You may be able to save some money by going with tower servers instead >>>> of rack mounted ones. Dell typically has great deals on them. >>>> > >>>> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware >>>> > ESX or ESXi product, please let me know. >>>> No experience with this server model, but you might want to look into >>>> ESX\ESXi version 2 although you may not be able to get licenses for it. >>>> Another option is the hosted VMware Server which runs in Windows or >>>> Linux as it will more likely support your hardware. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks! >>>> > >>>> > - >>>> > Dan >>>> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com <mailto:dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/cad78f9e/attachment-0001.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:55:05 -0600 >>>> From: Erik Mitchell <erik.mitchell at gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <AANLkTimmr+fH8vPKnC5iWCFTGkACOrDRW=Cm0f_bprfC at mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Robert, >>>> The Roseville location might not be any worse, although I can't speak >>>> to traffic. You'd just stay on 694 until you hit 35W, and go south >>>> from there to 36, and over to Snelling. If traffic is the same I would >>>> think the travel time from St. Cloud would be the same to Roseville >>>> and SLP. >>>> >>>> -Erik >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius <nesius at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the >>>> > St. >>>> > Cloud area.? Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to >>>> > get >>>> > over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was >>>> > no >>>> > path that wasn't completely stacked up.? Took me 45 minutes to get >>>> > across >>>> > Edina and Bloomington. >>>> > >>>> > -Rob >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <simmonsj at redkeep.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting >>>> >> to >>>> >> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul. >>>> >> Simmons >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> >> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer >>>> erik.mitchell at gmail.com >>>> erik at ekmitchell.com >>>> http://ekmitchell.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 6 >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:11:30 -0600 >>>> From: Tony Yarusso <tonyyarusso at gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <AANLkTi=k+_Bg1ZfTaR=nBu_nzTPTBZ9r4cmzR+ZizOg=@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > System Specs are as follows: >>>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors >>>> >>>> Running a virtualization system on a processor without the >>>> virtualization instruction set extensions will either be impossible or >>>> just woefully inadequate, depending on the type. I'm not sure which >>>> type VMware ESX is, but either way I wouldn't expect this to work >>>> *well*, if at all. >>>> >>>> - Tony >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 7 >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:32:57 -0600 >>>> From: "Patrick \"Finn\" Robins" <13.finn at gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <AANLkTinaAZL9AyjM2ZVEe+6hvBRCvZwSCLUyXuqOLKj2 at mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>> I have to second that. Virtualization on a CPU without the VT extensions >>>> is >>>> a big performance hit. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Patrick "Finn" Robins >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't >>>> matter >>>> and those who matter don't mind. >>>> - Dr. Seuss >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/20c3a43b/attachment-0001.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 8 >>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:09:30 -0600 >>>> From: Chris Niesen <chris.niesen at gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. >>>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <AANLkTimxe-Bbi0Gat1U6zw4Vg=ps4t=snYsA7qGMWiMi at mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> ESXi requires a 64 bit processor. Don't waste your time. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <dan.smith225 at gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Tclug, >>>> > >>>> > I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd >>>> > start >>>> > here before having to make another user account in another system >>>> > somewhere... >>>> > >>>> > I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm >>>> > looking to >>>> > find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it. >>>> > >>>> > System Specs are as follows: >>>> > Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors >>>> > Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives. >>>> > 4gb's of ram >>>> > Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller. >>>> > >>>> > This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver >>>> > LP2000R >>>> > running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster server until >>>> > I'm >>>> > able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's to run Hypervisor >>>> > 4 or >>>> > have a enviroment to work with hyper-v. >>>> > >>>> > If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware >>>> > ESX or >>>> > ESXi product, please let me know. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks! >>>> > >>>> > - >>>> > Dan >>>> > Email: dan.smith225 at gmail.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> > tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/pipermail/tclug-list/attachments/20110121/4c0ea402/attachment.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>>> >>>> End of tclug-list Digest, Vol 73, Issue 40 >>>> ****************************************** >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >>> tclug-list at mn-linux.org >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > -- Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer erik.mitchell at gmail.com erik at ekmitchell.com http://ekmitchell.com/