For the first time in history people of the world enjoy freedom of communication. And "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance." It is a great disappointment that this new freedom is heavily abused by porno pushers, joystick junkies, and often invasive and sometimes explicitly criminal behavior. In fact the legal community is already quite active dealing with these issues. The M$ monopoly case was based on (among other things) bundling an internet browser to their dominant OS. The U.S. Congress is quite active in trying to define public rights and protections. The FBI is building a cyber crime division. States Attorneys General maintain staff expert in internet commerce. Maybe this and maybe that, but probably the indicators properly posted to the TCLUG deserve more than a snickering dismissal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 8/15/01, 8:22:09 AM, Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com> wrote regarding Re [TCLUG] AT&T filtering sites.sdm at 3.sdm: > On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Rick Engebretson wrote: > > Very clever detective work. ATT owes their customers (and the internet > > community) an explaination. Nobody is supposed to own the internet any > > more than the public road system. You pay your access fee. If ATT (or > > MSN, etc.) tries to become a traffic cop, bring in the lawyers. > I bet the AUP specifically says that they aren't responsible for any > unreachability, etc.. which also means that they can cause the > unreachability if they so desire. > >From the discussions I've read on this topic, something like that'd never > make it in court.. 'course, if you wanna try it, we'd all be glad to see > if someone can actually pull it off. :) > Anyways, if they're getting flooded, it's not exactly their fault.. > -- > Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.real-time.com | Fax : (952)943-8500 > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list