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<div>Rick,</div><div><br></div><div>I have used both the STK500 and Atmel-ICE programmers and think they are overpriced.</div><div>I have migrated to OpenOCD on a Pi.</div><div>Also avoids vendor lock-in to Atmel and allows ST Micro, Renesas, Freescale, NXP or other uC's to be used.</div><div><br></div><div>Lady Ada has a nice tutorial on her site beginning here:</div><div><a href="https://learn.adafruit.com/programming-microcontrollers-using-openocd-on-raspberry-pi" style="font-size: 12pt;">https://learn.adafruit.com/programming-microcontrollers-using-openocd-on-raspberry-pi</a></div><div><br></div><div>It allows programming many uC that use SWD or JTAG and has a debugger.</div><div><br></div><div>Might also check out some of the other dev boards Adafruit has.</div><div>Elecrow's crowtail or crowduino boards may be of interest also.</div><div>Elecrow also manufactures inexpensive boards if you are proficient with KiCad or Eagle and don't mind soldering.</div><div><br></div><div>Happy hacking,</div><div>Bob</div><div> </div><div id="editor_signature"></div><div>On Thursday 30/01/2020 at 12:50 pm, Rick Engebretson wrote: </div><blockquote type="cite">As always, thanks for your feedback.<br><br>I have a nice breadboard, and some nice proto boards from "Protostack," <br>and 3 Atmel STK500 development kits, and AVR Studio on 5 machines, and <br>chips, and working software. I'm ready to have some soldering done.<br><br>I would have replied to your kind response earlier. But about 8:30 AM I <br>heard a clang outside and a little up the dirt road an old guy was <br>climbing out of his truck in the ditch. He was very lucky he broke the <br>sign post or he would have rolled it. He was in his 80s and it took two <br>trips from the towing company in Hinckley to get him out. The towing <br>company needed a bigger truck and a helper. It cost me $200 to get the <br>old guy down the road without a heart attack, and he was wearing my <br>brand new pair of dry wool socks leaving his wet socks on my wood stove. <br>The old guy was great to meet. But I need civilization.<br><br>I've tried FreeGeeks. Maybe some day I'll donate some nice stuff when I <br>think they have people who know what it is.<br><br><br>Iznogoud wrote:<br> > Let's make this topic useful.<br> ><br> >><br> >> If I knew how to change topics I really want to find somebody who knows<br> >> how to solder simple microcontroller boards. Are there any prototyping<br> >> shops left in the city?? I would love to do some business with some<br> >> civilized humans.<br> >><br> ><br> > You do not need a soldered board to prototype. Use a "bread board" <br>and put<br> > it together. Make it work first, then worry about soldering. That is <br>how to<br> > do it.<br> ><br> > Also, learning to solder --I am terrible at it-- is a great skill to <br>have.<br> > And having the right tools for doing it greatly accelerates quality <br>and speed.<br> > But right now you do not need this to prototype something.<br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br> > tclug-list@mn-linux.org<br> > <a target="_blank" href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br>tclug-list@mn-linux.org<br><a target="_blank" href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list</a><br></blockquote><br>
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