<div dir="ltr"><div>we wish. but in the real world we need to deal with and interface with poor protocols and sorry software. almost nobody specifies strict spf compliance. this is probably why. so i guess i also will back off to advisory only. yes it is my problem when folks dont receive my emails.<br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 9:29 AM Ryan Coleman <<a href="mailto:ryan.coleman@cwis.biz">ryan.coleman@cwis.biz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">Correct. Their problem, not yours. :) Just annoying. <div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 4, 2019, at 2:44 AM, gregrwm <<a href="mailto:tclug1@whitleymott.net" target="_blank">tclug1@whitleymott.net</a>> wrote:</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>it's not mine. note the similarity with the node that issued the notice. i see now, it's the spf forwarding trap. by specifying strict spf compliance, i break their forwarding of my messages. hmm.<br></div><div>>$ host 192.185.48.84</div><div>>84.48.185.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer <a href="http://gateway23.websitewelcome.com/" target="_blank">gateway23.websitewelcome.com</a>.</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 6:28 PM Ryan Coleman <<a href="mailto:ryan.coleman@notcwis.biz" target="_blank">ryan.coleman@notcwis.biz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Looks to me like your external IP (192.185.48.84) is not on the SPF1 list… <div><br></div><div>Here’s mine for d3photography:</div><div><blockquote type="cite">v=spf1 a mx include:<a href="http://zoho.com/" target="_blank">zoho.com</a> include:<a href="http://spf.smtp2go.com/" target="_blank">spf.smtp2go.com</a> ~all</blockquote></div><div>You’re definitely lacking you’re 192.185 IP in that include list.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/192.185.48.84" target="_blank">https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/192.185.48.84</a></div><div><table style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><tbody style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><th style="margin:0px;padding:0px;text-align:right;font-weight:400;color:rgb(119,119,119);white-space:nowrap">Hostname:</th><td style="margin:0px;padding:0px 2px"><a href="http://gateway23.websitewelcome.com/" target="_blank">gateway23.websitewelcome.com</a></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px"></tr></tbody></table><br></div><div>—</div><div>Ryan</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:58 AM, gregrwm <<a href="mailto:tclug1@whitleymott.net" target="_blank">tclug1@whitleymott.net</a>> wrote:</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>i received the two delivery failure notices copied below (portions suppressed with ...). it's clear
heidi's address in my messages must have forwarded to her address at <a href="http://landvantage.com/" target="_blank">landvantage.com</a>, and i expect the problem is in the mail handler there. but i dont want to overlook the possibility the error might be mine. the zone definition for <a href="http://whitleymott.net/" target="_blank">whitleymott.net</a> is also copied below. if anyone can see what's amis please advise. i'vs also written to <a href="mailto:postmaster@gateway33.websitewelcome.com" target="_blank">postmaster@gateway33.websitewelcome.com</a>. i also welcome your suggestions on where better to post this question.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>>$TTL 4h ;ttl for all RRs lacking an explicit ttl</div><div>>@ SOA @ <a href="http://hostmaster.scalliondata.com/" target="_blank">hostmaster.scalliondata.com</a>. (<br>> 696 ;serial<br>> 4h ;secondary server refresh<br>> 1h ;secondary server refresh retry<br>> 4d ;expire unrefreshed secondary server<br>> 4h ;ttl for no-such-domain (NXDOMAIN) responses from us<br>>)<br>>@ NS ns<br>>googleffffffffed11605c CNAME <a href="http://google.com/" target="_blank">google.com</a>.<br>>mail CNAME <a href="http://ghs.google.com/" target="_blank">ghs.google.com</a>.<br>>webmail CNAME <a href="http://ghs.google.com/" target="_blank">ghs.google.com</a>.<br>>mx CNAME <a href="http://aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank">ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br>>smtp CNAME <a href="http://aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank">ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br>>@ MX 10 <a href="http://aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank">ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br>>@ MX 20 <a href="http://alt1.aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank">ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br>>@ MX 20 <a href="http://alt2.aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank">ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br>>@ MX 30 <a href="http://aspmx2.googlemail.com/" target="_blank">ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>.<br>>@ MX 30 <a href="http://aspmx3.googlemail.com/" target="_blank">ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>.<br>>@ MX 30 <a href="http://aspmx4.googlemail.com/" target="_blank">ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>.<br>>@ MX 30 <a href="http://aspmx5.googlemail.com/" target="_blank">ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>.<br>>@ TXT "v=spf1 a a:<a href="http://rose.fo4.net/" target="_blank">rose.fo4.net</a> a:<a href="http://okra.fo4.net/" target="_blank">okra.fo4.net</a> include:<a href="http://aspmx.googlemail.com/" target="_blank">aspmx.googlemail.com</a> -all"<br>>@ A 206.123.88.191<br>>www A 206.123.88.191</div>>ns0 A 206.123.88.191<br><div>>ns A 209.240.82.11<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 12:39 PM Mail Delivery System <<a href="mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@gateway23.websitewelcome.com" target="_blank">MAILER-DAEMON@gateway23.websitewelcome.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This is the mail system at host <a href="http://gateway23.websitewelcome.com/" target="_blank">gateway23.websitewelcome.com</a>.<br>
<br>
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not<br>
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.<br>
<br>
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.<br>
<br>
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can<br>
delete your own text from the attached returned message.<br>
<br>
The mail system<br>
<br>
<...@<a href="http://landvantage.com/" target="_blank">landvantage.com</a>>: host <a href="http://mx10.mailspamprotection.com/" target="_blank">mx10.mailspamprotection.com</a>[184.154.208.34] said:<br>
550 192.185.48.84 is not allowed to send mail from <a href="http://whitleymott.net/" target="_blank">whitleymott.net</a>. Please<br>
see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity <a href="mailto:greg@whitleymott.net" target="_blank">greg@whitleymott.net</a>, and ip<br>
192.185.48.84 (in reply to end of DATA command)<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: gregory mott <<a href="mailto:greg@whitleymott.net" target="_blank">greg@whitleymott.net</a>><br>To: <br>Cc: David ... <...>, heidi...@...com<br>Bcc: <br>Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:38:35 -0500<font size="2"><br>...</font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:05 AM Mail Delivery System <<a href="mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@gateway33.websitewelcome.com" target="_blank">MAILER-DAEMON@gateway33.websitewelcome.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This is the mail system at host <a href="http://gateway33.websitewelcome.com/" target="_blank">gateway33.websitewelcome.com</a>.<br>
<br>
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not<br>
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.<br>
<br>
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.<br>
<br>
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can<br>
delete your own text from the attached returned message.<br>
<br>
The mail system<br>
<br>
<...@<a href="http://landvantage.com/" target="_blank">landvantage.com</a>>: host <a href="http://mx10.mailspamprotection.com/" target="_blank">mx10.mailspamprotection.com</a>[108.163.228.170]<br>
said: 550 192.185.146.78 is not allowed to send mail from <a href="http://whitleymott.net/" target="_blank">whitleymott.net</a>.<br>
Please see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity <a href="mailto:greg@whitleymott.net" target="_blank">greg@whitleymott.net</a>,<br>
and ip 192.185.146.78 (in reply to end of DATA command)<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: gregory mott <<a href="mailto:greg@whitleymott.net" target="_blank">greg@whitleymott.net</a>><br>To: Sarah ... <...@<a href="http://gmail.com/" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Laurel ...<...@<a href="http://gmail.com/" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>>, Kurt ... <...@<a href="http://gmail.com/" target="_blank">gmail.com</a>>, David ... <...>, heidi...@...com<br>Bcc: <br>Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 11:05:17 -0500</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="2">...</font><br clear="all"></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>--<br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-6685526075370397169gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">this concludes test 42 of big bang inflation dynamics. in the advent of
an actual universe, further instructions will be provided. 000000000000000000000042</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>