<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Correct. Their problem, not yours. :) Just annoying. <div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 4, 2019, at 2:44 AM, gregrwm <<a href="mailto:tclug1@whitleymott.net" class="">tclug1@whitleymott.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">it's not mine. note the similarity with the node that issued the notice. i see now, it's the spf forwarding trap. by specifying strict spf compliance, i break their forwarding of my messages. hmm.<br class=""></div><div class="">>$ host 192.185.48.84</div><div class="">>84.48.185.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer <a href="http://gateway23.websitewelcome.com/" class="">gateway23.websitewelcome.com</a>.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 6:28 PM Ryan Coleman <<a href="mailto:ryan.coleman@notcwis.biz" class="">ryan.coleman@notcwis.biz</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">Looks to me like your external IP (192.185.48.84) is not on the SPF1 list… <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here’s mine for d3photography:</div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">v=spf1 a mx include:<a href="http://zoho.com/" target="_blank" class="">zoho.com</a> include:<a href="http://spf.smtp2go.com/" target="_blank" class="">spf.smtp2go.com</a> ~all</blockquote></div><div class="">You’re definitely lacking you’re 192.185 IP in that include list.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/192.185.48.84" target="_blank" class="">https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/192.185.48.84</a></div><div class=""><table style="margin:0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:15px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><tbody style="margin:0px;padding:0px" class=""><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px" class=""><th style="margin:0px;padding:0px;text-align:right;font-weight:400;color:rgb(119,119,119);white-space:nowrap" class="">Hostname:</th><td style="margin:0px;padding:0px 2px" class=""><a href="http://gateway23.websitewelcome.com/" target="_blank" class="">gateway23.websitewelcome.com</a></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px" class=""></tr></tbody></table><br class=""></div><div class="">—</div><div class="">Ryan</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 3, 2019, at 10:58 AM, gregrwm <<a href="mailto:tclug1@whitleymott.net" target="_blank" class="">tclug1@whitleymott.net</a>> wrote:</div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">i received the two delivery failure notices copied below (portions suppressed with ...). it's clear
heidi's address in my messages must have forwarded to her address at <a href="http://landvantage.com/" target="_blank" class="">landvantage.com</a>, and i expect the problem is in the mail handler there. but i dont want to overlook the possibility the error might be mine. the zone definition for <a href="http://whitleymott.net/" target="_blank" class="">whitleymott.net</a> is also copied below. if anyone can see what's amis please advise. i'vs also written to <a href="mailto:postmaster@gateway33.websitewelcome.com" target="_blank" class="">postmaster@gateway33.websitewelcome.com</a>. i also welcome your suggestions on where better to post this question.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">>$TTL 4h ;ttl for all RRs lacking an explicit ttl</div><div class="">>@ SOA @ <a href="http://hostmaster.scalliondata.com/" target="_blank" class="">hostmaster.scalliondata.com</a>. (<br class="">> 696 ;serial<br class="">> 4h ;secondary server refresh<br class="">> 1h ;secondary server refresh retry<br class="">> 4d ;expire unrefreshed secondary server<br class="">> 4h ;ttl for no-such-domain (NXDOMAIN) responses from us<br class="">>)<br class="">>@ NS ns<br class="">>googleffffffffed11605c CNAME <a href="http://google.com/" target="_blank" class="">google.com</a>.<br class="">>mail CNAME <a href="http://ghs.google.com/" target="_blank" class="">ghs.google.com</a>.<br class="">>webmail CNAME <a href="http://ghs.google.com/" target="_blank" class="">ghs.google.com</a>.<br class="">>mx CNAME <a href="http://aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank" class="">ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br class="">>smtp CNAME <a href="http://aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank" class="">ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br class="">>@ MX 10 <a href="http://aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank" class="">ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br class="">>@ MX 20 <a href="http://alt1.aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank" class="">ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br class="">>@ MX 20 <a href="http://alt2.aspmx.l.google.com/" target="_blank" class="">ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM</a>.<br class="">>@ MX 30 <a href="http://aspmx2.googlemail.com/" target="_blank" class="">ASPMX2.GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>.<br class="">>@ MX 30 <a href="http://aspmx3.googlemail.com/" target="_blank" class="">ASPMX3.GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>.<br class="">>@ MX 30 <a href="http://aspmx4.googlemail.com/" target="_blank" class="">ASPMX4.GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>.<br class="">>@ MX 30 <a href="http://aspmx5.googlemail.com/" target="_blank" class="">ASPMX5.GOOGLEMAIL.COM</a>.<br class="">>@ TXT "v=spf1 a a:<a href="http://rose.fo4.net/" target="_blank" class="">rose.fo4.net</a> a:<a href="http://okra.fo4.net/" target="_blank" class="">okra.fo4.net</a> include:<a href="http://aspmx.googlemail.com/" target="_blank" class="">aspmx.googlemail.com</a> -all"<br class="">>@ A 206.123.88.191<br class="">>www A 206.123.88.191</div>>ns0 A 206.123.88.191<br class=""><div class="">>ns A 209.240.82.11<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 12:39 PM Mail Delivery System <<a href="mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@gateway23.websitewelcome.com" target="_blank" class="">MAILER-DAEMON@gateway23.websitewelcome.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This is the mail system at host <a href="http://gateway23.websitewelcome.com/" target="_blank" class="">gateway23.websitewelcome.com</a>.<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not<br class="">
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.<br class="">
<br class="">
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.<br class="">
<br class="">
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can<br class="">
delete your own text from the attached returned message.<br class="">
<br class="">
The mail system<br class="">
<br class="">
<...@<a href="http://landvantage.com/" target="_blank" class="">landvantage.com</a>>: host <a href="http://mx10.mailspamprotection.com/" target="_blank" class="">mx10.mailspamprotection.com</a>[184.154.208.34] said:<br class="">
550 192.185.48.84 is not allowed to send mail from <a href="http://whitleymott.net/" target="_blank" class="">whitleymott.net</a>. Please<br class="">
see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity <a href="mailto:greg@whitleymott.net" target="_blank" class="">greg@whitleymott.net</a>, and ip<br class="">
192.185.48.84 (in reply to end of DATA command)<br class=""><br class="">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br class="">From: gregory mott <<a href="mailto:greg@whitleymott.net" target="_blank" class="">greg@whitleymott.net</a>><br class="">To: <br class="">Cc: David ... <...>, heidi...@...com<br class="">Bcc: <br class="">Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 12:38:35 -0500<font size="2" class=""><br class="">...</font></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:05 AM Mail Delivery System <<a href="mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@gateway33.websitewelcome.com" target="_blank" class="">MAILER-DAEMON@gateway33.websitewelcome.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This is the mail system at host <a href="http://gateway33.websitewelcome.com/" target="_blank" class="">gateway33.websitewelcome.com</a>.<br class="">
<br class="">
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not<br class="">
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.<br class="">
<br class="">
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.<br class="">
<br class="">
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can<br class="">
delete your own text from the attached returned message.<br class="">
<br class="">
The mail system<br class="">
<br class="">
<...@<a href="http://landvantage.com/" target="_blank" class="">landvantage.com</a>>: host <a href="http://mx10.mailspamprotection.com/" target="_blank" class="">mx10.mailspamprotection.com</a>[108.163.228.170]<br class="">
said: 550 192.185.146.78 is not allowed to send mail from <a href="http://whitleymott.net/" target="_blank" class="">whitleymott.net</a>.<br class="">
Please see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity <a href="mailto:greg@whitleymott.net" target="_blank" class="">greg@whitleymott.net</a>,<br class="">
and ip 192.185.146.78 (in reply to end of DATA command)<br class=""><br class="">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br class="">From: gregory mott <<a href="mailto:greg@whitleymott.net" target="_blank" class="">greg@whitleymott.net</a>><br class="">To: Sarah ... <...@<a href="http://gmail.com/" target="_blank" class="">gmail.com</a>><br class="">Cc: Laurel ...<...@<a href="http://gmail.com/" target="_blank" class="">gmail.com</a>>, Kurt ... <...@<a href="http://gmail.com/" target="_blank" class="">gmail.com</a>>, David ... <...>, heidi...@...com<br class="">Bcc: <br class="">Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 11:05:17 -0500</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="2" class="">...</font></blockquote></div></div></div></div>
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an actual universe, further instructions will be provided. 000000000000000000000042<br class=""></div></div></div>
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