<div dir="auto">Hey all,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Looking for a job that involves Linux. What does one look for entry level stuff? Anybody have any openings? Don't see the job posting board. Currently doing IMAC/depot level work at the moment. A little about my experience, I have my Linux+ and security+ cert. Don't have much enterprise related Linux experience but I do run it at home on my desktop, and have setup qemu for pci passthrough to play my games in a windows 10 VM. Run a tor relay, and a bitcoin node with a hidden service. Picked up a rpi and used that to install coreboot on my thinkpad. Current projects I'm working on is setting up a mail server jail with freebsd, setup a ovirt host on a micro dell optiplex, then automate installs with chef, puppet, and ansible. I need to pick up a bash or python book and get some scripting under my belt.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I can give my resume upon request. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 12:00 <<a href="mailto:tclug-list-request@mn-linux.org">tclug-list-request@mn-linux.org</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: tclug-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 8 (harv)<br>
2. Re: tclug-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 8 (gerry)<br>
3. Re: tclug-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 8 (Iznogoud)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 12:58:47 -0600<br>
From: harv <<a href="mailto:42dch42@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">42dch42@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 8<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:5c2bb868.1c69fb81.55970.b59a@mx.google.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">5c2bb868.1c69fb81.55970.b59a@mx.google.com</a>><br>
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Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:00:01 -0600<br>
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 21:08:32 -0600 (CST)<br>
> From: gerry <<a href="mailto:gsker@skerbitz.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gsker@skerbitz.org</a>><br>
> To: TCLUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 8<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:alpine.DEB.2.21.1812302034100.19075@skerbitz.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">alpine.DEB.2.21.1812302034100.19075@skerbitz.org</a>><br>
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> I'm pretty sure I read an email from Danny saying he/she was a noob.<br>
> I can't find a tclug list archive to verify that, though....<br>
> <br>
Yes, he did say he was a newbie.<br>
So what?<br>
We all were at one point. Did you learn anything by avoiding exposure<br>
to that thing?<br>
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> At the very least we should not ask a novice user to use vim to mess with a<br>
> shadow file. That's just brutal.<br>
> <br>
What's brutal about it?<br>
Especially since I gave instructions right down to the key strokes<br>
required for vi/vim and pointed out exactly which field of shadow file<br>
to delete.<br>
I'm just a dumb assed construction worker. If I can figure it out, it<br>
can't be that hard.<br>
<br>
> If the command<br>
> mount -o rw,remount /<br>
> <br>
> works for them, then the user can just run<br>
> passwd danny<br>
> to change the password for the "danny" user.<br>
> <br>
Another possible solution. Almost wish I had thought of it.<br>
<br>
>From a reply from gerry to iznogood:<br>
>I dug into how someone might do this from the LiveDVD while doing as<br>
>much as possible without the command line.<br>
><br>
>I couldn't even mount the drive in that interface without the terminal.<br>
<br>
Don't know what file manager is on LiveDVD but Thunar,Dolphin and<br>
PCmanFM file managers can mount drives and some live distros allow for<br>
installation of software- just for session, gone with a reboot. It does<br>
require enough ram to work though.<br>
So if LiveDVD allows installation of software and there is enough ram<br>
one could install one of those file managers if available but still need<br>
root permissions for passwd or to edit shadow file.<br>
<br>
harv<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 15:52:34 -0600 (CST)<br>
From: gerry <<a href="mailto:gsker@skerbitz.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gsker@skerbitz.org</a>><br>
To: harv <<a href="mailto:42dch42@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">42dch42@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 8<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:alpine.DEB.2.21.1901011543160.10895@skerbitz.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">alpine.DEB.2.21.1901011543160.10895@skerbitz.org</a>><br>
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Harv,<br>
Like my old man always said -- everthing is easy once you know how.<br>
You may be a contruction worker but you most ceratainly are not a dumb-assed <br>
construction worker.<br>
<br>
Your instructions were fine. <br>
I did not mean to denigrate anything anyone said.<br>
My use of "brutal" for using vi was intended as a joke.<br>
<br>
I was just imagining being stuck at a machine I could not login to and what <br>
would be the very easiest way out of it and how I would communicate that to a <br>
person newly exposed to a Linux computer.<br>
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I apologize if I've caused offense.<br>
Gerry<br>
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--<br>
<a href="mailto:gsker@skerbitz.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gsker@skerbitz.org</a><br>
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On Tue, 1 Jan 2019, harv wrote:<br>
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> Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:00:01 -0600<br>
>> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 21:08:32 -0600 (CST)<br>
>> From: gerry <<a href="mailto:gsker@skerbitz.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gsker@skerbitz.org</a>><br>
>> To: TCLUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 8<br>
>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:alpine.DEB.2.21.1812302034100.19075@skerbitz.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">alpine.DEB.2.21.1812302034100.19075@skerbitz.org</a>><br>
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>><br>
>> I'm pretty sure I read an email from Danny saying he/she was a noob.<br>
>> I can't find a tclug list archive to verify that, though....<br>
>><br>
> Yes, he did say he was a newbie.<br>
> So what?<br>
> We all were at one point. Did you learn anything by avoiding exposure<br>
> to that thing?<br>
><br>
>> At the very least we should not ask a novice user to use vim to mess with a<br>
>> shadow file. That's just brutal.<br>
>><br>
> What's brutal about it?<br>
> Especially since I gave instructions right down to the key strokes<br>
> required for vi/vim and pointed out exactly which field of shadow file<br>
> to delete.<br>
> I'm just a dumb assed construction worker. If I can figure it out, it<br>
> can't be that hard.<br>
><br>
>> If the command<br>
>> mount -o rw,remount /<br>
>><br>
>> works for them, then the user can just run<br>
>> passwd danny<br>
>> to change the password for the "danny" user.<br>
>><br>
> Another possible solution. Almost wish I had thought of it.<br>
><br>
>> From a reply from gerry to iznogood:<br>
>> I dug into how someone might do this from the LiveDVD while doing as<br>
>> much as possible without the command line.<br>
>><br>
>> I couldn't even mount the drive in that interface without the terminal.<br>
><br>
> Don't know what file manager is on LiveDVD but Thunar,Dolphin and<br>
> PCmanFM file managers can mount drives and some live distros allow for<br>
> installation of software- just for session, gone with a reboot. It does<br>
> require enough ram to work though.<br>
> So if LiveDVD allows installation of software and there is enough ram<br>
> one could install one of those file managers if available but still need<br>
> root permissions for passwd or to edit shadow file.<br>
><br>
> harv<br>
><br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 17:22:36 +0000<br>
From: Iznogoud <<a href="mailto:iznogoud@nobelware.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">iznogoud@nobelware.com</a>><br>
To: TCLUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a>><br>
Cc: harv <<a href="mailto:42dch42@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">42dch42@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] tclug-list Digest, Vol 168, Issue 8<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20190102172236.GA8363@nobelware.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">20190102172236.GA8363@nobelware.com</a>><br>
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> <br>
> I apologize if I've caused offense.<br>
> <br>
<br>
No man, nobody took offense here.<br>
<br>
I cannot speak for harv, but having chatted with him on occasion, I get the<br>
sense that he was wearing his "practical person" hat, and took no offense.<br>
<br>
Clearly Danny was looking at something seemingly insurmountable when he asked<br>
his question. Which reminds me, what happened? Did we help? Did you reinstall,<br>
in good Miscrosoft spirit?<br>
<br>
Also, harv is an example of the gems the internet hides and of the diversity of<br>
its users. He can probably go about his profession without touching a keyboard,<br>
but his inquisition into the realm of sysadmin-ing is admirable, and I am a bit<br>
envious. If you told me he was an NSA agent's alter ego, I'd buy it. OK, I kid,<br>
I kid harv!<br>
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