<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Paul, <br><br></div>I'm sorry I asked for clarification of your previous statement. I asked because you appear to have difficulties communicating, and I did not want to assume it was as off topic as it appeared - and your past history suggested it was.<br><br></div>Please, please, please stop sending random gibberish to the list. Many of us, myself included, would love to help you with Linux related issues, despite the fact that you have repeatedly insulted us. <br><br></div>I will take describing me as having a 'Coleman attitude' at face value, and not as the insult you probably intended. Coleman has gone above and beyond helping people on this list, and has previously given *you* excessive help, despite your nasty attitude, behavior, and name calling. I consider it a compliment to be described as having that attitude.<br><br></div>That said, I'm tired of you on this list. Feel free to reply to me off list, if you can figure out how, but I really have no interest in publicly feeding a troll, and wasting space in everyone's email.<br><br></div>If you truly want help, prove it by taking it off list - but if you really are just the troll you appear to be, hopefully the list's admin will make a rare exception to their hands-off moderation style and fix this issue.<br><br></div>Jeff<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 7:41 PM, paul g <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PJ.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">PJ.world@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Grow up and help users not hurt them with yer Coleman attitude. <br>
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<p>This was all off topic.<br>
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<p>....zzz<br>
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</span><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:37 PM<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>I guess I don't know what I expected.<br>
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Sorry everyone on the list!<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 7:34 PM, paul g <span dir="ltr">
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<p>Mock you're swap. You know who you are. Blub.<br>
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<p>....zzz<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 20, 2017 1:46 AM, "paul g" <<a href="mailto:PJ.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">PJ.world@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div id="m_7119651681348090249m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194Signature">He likes it all to be manual. Just like Potter;
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<div dir="ltr">Swapoff checks that automatically -- but I usually do it when I notice that I am using a ton of swap, but not all my ram. It may just be an illusion, but it seems that when I have a browser that is starting to act up and slow, this fixes it.
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<p>Do you check to make sure your existing swap usage and RAM usage combined does not equal a number higher than the amount of total RAM you have on the system? I am guessing flushing swap into RAM when there is not enough RAM available is a bad thing to do.<br>
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Just curious, why do you clear your swap space like that periodically? If your swap is being used too much, perhaps you either need more RAM or else should maybe turn down your vm.swappiness in sysctl.<br>
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Aha. I tried 'man swap' but didn't think of 'swapon'. My google search was not<br>
very productive, so I am thankful of your information! -Steve<br>
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