<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Excuse me?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 20, 2017, at 7:41 PM, paul g <<a href="mailto:PJ.world@hotmail.com" class="">PJ.world@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Grow up and help users not hurt them with yer Coleman attitude.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">This was all off topic.<br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="Signature" class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', NotoColorEmoji, 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Android Emoji', EmojiSymbols;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">....zzz<br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><br class=""><div style="" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 982.9375px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" class="">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a> <<a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" class="">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a>> on behalf of Jeff Chapin <<a href="mailto:chapinjeff@gmail.com" class="">chapinjeff@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 20, 2017 7:37 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>TCLUG Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [tclug-list] proc virt meaning?</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I guess I don't know what I expected.<br class=""><br class=""></div>Sorry everyone on the list!<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 7:34 PM, paul g<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:PJ.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">PJ.world@hotmail.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div id="m_-6891834876335914993divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Mock you're swap. You know who you are. Blub.<br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="m_-6891834876335914993Signature" class=""><div id="m_-6891834876335914993divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', NotoColorEmoji, 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Android Emoji', EmojiSymbols;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">....zzz<br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><br class=""><div style="" class=""><hr style="display: inline-block; width: 967.203125px;" class=""><div id="m_-6891834876335914993divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" class="">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.<wbr class="">org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" class="">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.<wbr class="">org</a>> on behalf of Jeff Chapin <<a href="mailto:chapinjeff@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">chapinjeff@gmail.com</a>><br class=""></span><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 20, 2017 6:32 PM<div class=""><div class="h5"><br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>TCLUG Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [tclug-list] proc virt meaning?</div></div></font><div class=""> </div></div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">.... Dare I ask?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 20, 2017 1:46 AM, "paul g" <<a href="mailto:PJ.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank" class="">PJ.world@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div id="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div id="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194Signature" class="">He likes it all to be manual. Just like Potter;<div id="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI Emoji', NotoColorEmoji, 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Android Emoji', EmojiSymbols;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">....zzz<br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><br class=""><div style="" class=""><hr style="display: inline-block; width: 951.484375px;" class=""><div id="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" class="">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.or<wbr class="">g</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" class="">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.o<wbr class="">rg</a>> on behalf of Jeff Chapin <<a href="mailto:chapinjeff@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">chapinjeff@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, September 18, 2017 4:26 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>TCLUG Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [tclug-list] proc virt meaning?</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Swapoff checks that automatically -- but I usually do it when I notice that I am using a ton of swap, but not all my ram. It may just be an illusion, but it seems that when I have a browser that is starting to act up and slow, this fixes it.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Justin Krejci<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:jus@krytosvirus.com" target="_blank" class="">jus@krytosvirus.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Do you check to make sure your existing swap usage and RAM usage combined does not equal a number higher than the amount of total RAM you have on the system? I am guessing flushing swap into RAM when there is not enough RAM available is a bad thing to do.<br class=""><br class="">Just curious, why do you clear your swap space like that periodically? If your swap is being used too much, perhaps you either need more RAM or else should maybe turn down your vm.swappiness in sysctl.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194h5"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">On 2017-09-18 04:07 PM, Jeff Chapin wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0px 0.4em; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin: 0px;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="">I periodically check swap usage, and run:<br class=""><br class="">sudo swapoff -a; sudo swapon -a;<br class=""><br class=""></div>This will force anything in swap (on disk) back into RAM.<br class=""><br class=""></div>Jeff</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Steve Trapp<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class=""><<a href="mailto:stevetrapp@comcast.net" target="_blank" class="">stevetrapp@comcast.net</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Aha. I tried 'man swap' but didn't think of 'swapon'. My google search was not<br class="">very productive, so I am thankful of your information! -Steve<br class=""><div class="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194m_6455040591944095935HOEnZb"><div class="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194m_6455040591944095935h5"><br class="">On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:16:16PM +0000, Iznogoud wrote:<br class="">> ><br class="">> > For GNU/Linux, how do you turn swap off and how do you turn in back on again?<br class="">> ><br class="">><br class="">> Here is the top of the manual page:<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">> NAME<br class="">> swapon, swapoff - enable/disable devices and files for paging and swap-<br class="">> ping<br class="">><br class="">> SYNOPSIS<br class="">> /sbin/swapon [-h -V]<br class="">> /sbin/swapon -a [-v] [-e]<br class="">> /sbin/swapon [-v] [-p priority] specialfile ...<br class="">> /sbin/swapon [-s]<br class="">> /sbin/swapoff [-h -V]<br class="">> /sbin/swapoff -a<br class="">> /sbin/swapoff specialfile ...<br class="">><br class="">> ______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" class="">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/ma<wbr class="">ilman/listinfo/tclug-list</a><br class=""></div></div><span class="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194m_6455040591944095935HOEnZb m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194m_6455040591944095935im">--<br class="">Name: Steve Trapp<br class="">Location: Just east of the Missippi River<br class="">Email-address: stevetrapp<AT>comcast<DOT>net<br class="">Homepage: comcast DROPPED ALL HOMEPAGES--Where do I put my PGP public key now?<br class=""></span><div class="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194m_6455040591944095935HOEnZb"><div class="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194m_6455040591944095935h5">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br class=""><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" class="">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/ma<wbr class="">ilman/listinfo/tclug-list</a></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><br clear="all" class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><div class="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194m_6455040591944095935gmail_signature">Jeff Chapin<br class="">President, CedarLug, retired<br class="">President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"<br class="">President, UNI Scuba Club<br class="">Senator, NISG, retired</div></div><br class=""><div class="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194m_6455040591944095935pre" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: monospace;">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br class=""><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" class="">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/ma<wbr class="">ilman/listinfo/tclug-list</a></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br class=""><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" class="">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/ma<wbr class="">ilman/listinfo/tclug-list</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><br class=""><br clear="all" class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><div class="m_-6891834876335914993m_-7779398714637305194gmail_signature">Jeff Chapin<br class="">President, CedarLug, retired<br class="">President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"<br class="">President, UNI Scuba Club<br class="">Senator, NISG, retired</div></div></div></div></div></div><br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br class=""><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank" class="">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/ma<wbr class="">ilman/listinfo/tclug-list</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br class=""><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" class="">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/<wbr class="">mailman/listinfo/tclug-list</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><br class=""><br clear="all" class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><div class="gmail_signature">Jeff Chapin<br class="">President, CedarLug, retired<br class="">President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it"<br class="">President, UNI Scuba Club<br class="">Senator, NISG, retired</div></div></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; 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