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    <p>I frinking hate dbus. I don't know why they don't just use ipc.
      It is supposed to be better because it can park and wait or run
      multiple messages in parallel <br>
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    <p>so the way i read this is inline...<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/25/17 1:50 PM, gregrwm wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">probably not samba.  if it's not LTS the whole
        thing is beta at best, and often more like alpha.  when i file
        ubuntu-bug it does occasionally happen that someone sees it and
        hadn't known about the problem.<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:47 PM,
              Mike Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  href="mailto:mbmiller+l@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">mbmiller+l@gmail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This
                was as serious as any BSOD.  I was using
                chromium-browser and<br>
                when I used the mouse to copy the URL, the whole system
                just froze.<br>
                The mouse still moved on the screen at first, but
                nothing else worked,<br>
                then the mouse froze too.  I doubt it had anything to do
                with<br>
                chromium.  I couldn't use ctrl-alt-F1 and the machine
                seemed to<br>
                disappear from the home network, so I couldn't even see
                it, never mind<br>
                ping it or ssh to it.<br>
                <br>
                Here are the messages from /var/log/syslog (my machine
                is "taxa2"):<br>
                <br>
                Jul 24 17:02:49 taxa2 org.gtk.vfs.Daemon[2445]:
                fusermount: failed to<br>
                access mountpoint /run/user/1000/gvfs: Permission denied<br>
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    So there is a daemon process trying to access a file it doesn't have
    permission for..<br>
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                Jul 24 17:02:50 taxa2 hud-service[2166]: #033[31mvoid<br>
                DBusMenuImporter::<wbr>slotGetLayoutFinished(<wbr>QDBusPendingCallWatcher*)#033[<wbr>0m:<br>
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    This looks like the desktop layout.. and since it can't complete..
    it appears as a hang. if you ssh'd in the box itself would probably
    be running just the windows .. i think that's gnome <br>
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              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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                "No such interface 'com.canonical.dbusmenu' on object at
                path<br>
                /org/ayatana/bamf/window/<wbr>67108867"<br>
                Jul 24 17:02:54 taxa2 unity-panel-ser[2034]:
                menus_destroyed:<br>
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    menus destroyed!!!<br>
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                assertion 'IS_WINDOW_MENU(wm)' failed<br>
                <br>
                That's what happened just as it got stuck.  There was
                nothing for 25<br>
                minutes before that and nothing after that until I reset
                the computer<br>
                and rebooted.<br>
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                Any ideas?  Could it have anything to do with samba? <br>
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    nope pretty sure it is the windows manager<br>
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              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> (That
                was<br>
                running, but nothing should have been accessing it at
                that time.)  I<br>
                was not using sshfs.<br>
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                Mike<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">this concludes test 42 of big bang
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