<div dir="ltr">Maybe I'm not understanding the question but isn't this exactly what the init processes (SysVinit, Upstart, Systemd) do?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:29 AM, John Gateley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tclug@jfoo.org" target="_blank">tclug@jfoo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">January 24, 2017 4:31 PM, "Iznogoud" <<a href="mailto:iznogoud@nobelware.com">iznogoud@nobelware.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Right, I anderstand. But we will disagree on two things and I prefer to leave<br>
> it at that: (a) using the filesystem, especially with a complex directory<br>
> structure _and_ with non-intuitive operations like linking, unliking and<br>
> rm-ing is far from elegant in my book, and (b) unix is all about configuration<br>
> files, which are not complicated if one studies documents and manual pages.<br>
<br>
</span>I have no idea how you decided we disagree about configuration files. My<br>
question was about daemonizing applications, not about configuring them.<br>
Your configuration files are a red herring. Please read my original question.<br>
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> Ansible, jailing processes, automation and virtualization have requirements<br>
> and some things can be made simpler with the (seamingly) complex (in my book)<br>
> operations. But I am of the idea that this sort of "requirement" should not<br>
> be feeding back to the structure of a really well functioning OS. I could be<br>
> dead wrong about this and I am an Ansible iliterate at best. Maybe that is<br>
> why I run Slackware.<br>
<br>
</span>Ansible has nothing to do with Slackware, so your comment makes no sense.<br>
<br>
You seem to be saying "linux is a really well functioning OS, so we shouldn't<br>
make any changes to it." That is an interesting attitude.<br>
<br>
To recap: I asked about daemonizing applications, and got one useful response<br>
("monit", which is more about monitoring daemons than daemonizing them, though<br>
it does have rudimentary capabilities for them), and a bunch of responses from<br>
you which were off topic and did not answer my question.<br>
<br>
I'm still researching this, and looking for opinions. At the moment "runit" is<br>
still in the lead, though if the debian package replaces init out of the box,<br>
I will probably choose something different.<br>
<br>
John<br>
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