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color=#0000ff size=4>Thanks Wayne!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=4>Signal strength isn't bad. They have 3 access points
that seem to be distributed around the large building for each of the 3
wifi SSIDs. At least one of the 3 for each SSID is usually plenty
good. I have good wifi utilities in both Android and PC, but I haven't
written down the actual signal strength numbers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=4>Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org
[mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Wayne
Johnson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 21, 2016 3:58 PM<BR><B>To:</B> TCLUG
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tclug-list] Need basic internet access
info for a large facility<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4797>Not an expert here, but first
question I would ask is what is the signal strength? I've seen
facilities like these that have cinderblock walls separating each
apartment. Cinder block is not friendly to wi-fi. USI has the same
problem in Minneapolis with their community wifi. It doesn't go through
stucco real well. 1-2 bars is not adequate for a decent wi-fi connection
in my experience. <BR></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4809><BR></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4784><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4919>There are some nice tools for Android
that can scan and graph wi-fi signal strengths. WifiAnalizer from VREM
Software works well with me.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4761><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: courier">--- </SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: courier"><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4782 style="FONT-FAMILY: courier">Wayne
Johnson,
| <SPAN id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4781
style="COLOR: rgb(191,95,0)">There are two kinds of people: Those</SPAN>
</SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: courier"><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4780 style="FONT-FAMILY: courier">
| <SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4779 style="COLOR: rgb(191,95,0)">who say
to God, "Thy will be done," </SPAN></SPAN><BR
style="FONT-FAMILY: courier"><SPAN id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4778
style="FONT-FAMILY: courier">
| <SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4777 style="COLOR: rgb(191,95,0)">and those
to whom God says, "All right, </SPAN></SPAN><BR
style="FONT-FAMILY: courier"><SPAN id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4760
style="FONT-FAMILY: courier">
| <SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4759 style="COLOR: rgb(191,95,0)">then,
have it your way." --C.S. Lewis</SPAN><BR></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Chuck Cole
<cncole@earthlink.net><BR><B
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4980><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4979
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'TCLUG Mailing List'
<tclug-list@mn-linux.org> <BR><B
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4978><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4977
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, October 21, 2016 3:31
PM<BR><B id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4976><SPAN
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4975
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [tclug-list] Need basic internet
access info for a large facility<BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4973 dir=ltr align=left><FONT
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4972 face=Arial size=4><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4971>Need wifi setup or management
parameter help..</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4974><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4698><FONT
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4697 size=4><FONT
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4696 face=Arial><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4695>Some blind folk at Cherrywood
Pointe <SPAN class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> (senior living)
</SPAN>in Savage have tech support from MN Services for the Blind
for Dragon (and related) screen reading software which needs internet to
function properly. <SPAN
class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4983> Cherrywood is an Ebenezer
managed facility with about 70 "independent living" residents who are
cabalbe and typically affluent (rent is quite high). Wifi is included in
rent. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4702>The wifi connection is erratic,
and at such low speed that the software doesn't work. I'm trying to help
identify the problems<SPAN class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> so thet
can be fixed</SPAN>.<SPAN class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4701> "Bandaids" used before
have not worked. </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4710><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4709><FONT
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4708 size=4><FONT
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4707 face=Arial><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> What is a
typical </SPAN>building setup? My info is only approximate
now. Centurylink has a "big" fiber-optic feed to the equipment
room. Cherrywood/Ebenezer equipment in the "communications room"
converts to wire distribution. There is a "building router" that has
multiple "CAT5" feeds that support offices and 3 pairs of access points that
distribute wifi<SPAN class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> in the
facility </SPAN>.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4714><FONT
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4713 face=Arial size=4><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016
id=yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477082852658_4712>All I need to know is basic bandwidth
and connection info: I do not need to know anything private, and do not seek
any actual admin access.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016>What
is <SPAN class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> a</SPAN> likely
building router make and model?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016>What
is <SPAN class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> a</SPAN> likely wifi
access point make and model?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016>Are
there typical bandwidth or speed restrictions affecting residents and
guests?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016>The
connection speed of the 802.11g<SPAN
class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016>/n </SPAN> links is usually only
11MHz, and <SPAN
class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> only</SPAN><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> once in a
while </SPAN>54MHz.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016>The
internet speed is usually only about 1.5 mb/sec, <SPAN
class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> and </SPAN>occasionally
3<SPAN class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> mb/sec </SPAN> or
so.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016><FONT size=4><FONT
face=Arial>Those numbers seem far below a typical "wifi hotspot"
connection.<SPAN class=yiv1678085506288381620-21102016> I've never
experienced such bad connections as these. What does a typical
hotspot like a Dunn Bros coffee shop
offer?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016>Please assist as you
can.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN class=yiv1678085506834493919-21102016>Chuck
Cole</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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