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<p><font size="+2">Uncalled for, Paul. Shame on you.</font></p>
<p><font size="+2">Tom</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/20/2016 05:15 PM, paul g wrote:<br>
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<p>Good Riddance <br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><b>From:</b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org"><tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org></a> on behalf of Jeff
Chapin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chapinjeff@gmail.com"><chapinjeff@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 18, 2016 3:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> TCLUG Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tclug-list] FW: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:john.trammell@gmail.com">john.trammell@gmail.com</a>
invited you to TCLUGon Slack
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<p dir="ltr">Bye.</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 17, 2016 11:04 AM,
"Sandwhich Eyes" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sandwhicheyes@gmail.com">sandwhicheyes@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div><u><i><b>i think calling someone a thief by
implying piracy is criminal.</b></i></u> i
think that is clear.
<br>
if by attacking you mean pointing out when
someone is randomly throwing accusations about
people and criminal intent for setting up a
slack account. do you not see that? do you all
not see that when people are allowed to troll
that it effects everyone? i have been on this
list for over 10 years. i can see why there is
no traffic on here anymore. i could stay and
help put rude condescending and outright
criminal behavior in check. but why, you are all
adults.
<br>
</div>
i would ask for a consensus on this but i would
guess if people speak up they would just get
flamed and accused of piracy or some other super
random accusation.
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i wonder what percentage of this list are decent
caring people? anyone care to speak up before i
move on to other places? why am i attacking chuck,
bist du blint?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at
10:37 AM, Chuck Cole <span dir="ltr">
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net"
target="_blank">cncole@earthlink.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span>I was just "subscribed"
to SLACK without my doing anything, they
got my name wrong, and I have no way to
unsubscribe or participate.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><span>I'm one of the earliest
members here, and have seen other attempts
to commandeer the group and change its
nature somehow.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><span>"Sandwhich Eyes" seems to
be a newbie here - on his own podium, and
missing a few clues.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><span>We had no discussion of
SLACK here, and no proposed basis for
another group using different software or
leadership.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span>This appears to be
just-another-piracy-attempt of some
sort. </span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span></span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span>Has there been any
discussion or preface for this? My
search showed nothing.</span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span></span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span></span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span>Chuck</span></span></div>
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<b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org"
target="_blank">
tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.or<wbr>g</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org"
target="_blank">tclug-list-bounces@mn-<wbr>linux.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Coleman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 17, 2016
8:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> TCLUG Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tclug-list] FW: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john.trammell@gmail.com"
target="_blank">
john.trammell@gmail.com</a> invited you
to TCLUGon Slack<br>
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I think you’ve gone way over the edge on
this one, brother.
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<div>We are all free peoples to choose
how we wish. But why are you attacking
Chuck on his attempt to open a
discussion?</div>
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<div>On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:01 AM,
Sandwhich Eyes <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sandwhicheyes@gmail.com"
target="_blank">sandwhicheyes@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div>Let me
make a few
assumptions
here.<br>
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someone offers
you an invite
to a list.<br>
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from that you,
chuck cole,
call him a
thief. <br>
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the list has low
volume because
people who try
to do good
things get beat
down, which is
the opposite of
support.<br>
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i personally would
like to know how
you ended up
calling him a
thief. why did you
do that chuck?
what is going
through your mind?
you may not have
said it in your
head when you
wrote it, but
clearly your
predicate logic is
indicative of
exactly that.
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no one wants to get
beat down by trolls.
ever. your mom would
be disappointed in
you, or she should
be. you should let
her know how you
treat people. i am
disappointed in you.
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if you had a question
about linux as a
newbie would you ask
it in this
environment?<br>
</div>
here is what i propose.
<br>
</div>
this new list you were
invited to was started to
give this list a fresh
start and to try and
revitalize a list to
provide people with
answers to their questions
and not be afraid to open
their email. seriously
just ignore things that
come in your precious
email box if you are
offended.<br>
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when he did this he was
either called a thief; i
have no idea why. it is
even more confusing that no
one calls you out on this.
you may even be implying
that he is a terrorist (if
you meant privacy;) not sure
where that would have come
from either. tor is a navy
project released to the
public to help hide their
traffic. so privacy isn't a
bad thing, especially when
it helps to protect our
country. (put that in their
because ryan had suggested
tor in an old post (not
saying anything bad about
ryan so please don't be
offended, only trying to
point out that tor provides
privacy and it is fresh in
my mind) and while tor is
neat and helping our
government is good, i can't
handle the latency nor do i
encrypt my stuff as i have
lost too much stuff from
hard drive errors (no i
don't use raid as i am poor.
simple hard drive backup on
occasion and family photos
get saved off site ever 6
months or so.) so i don't
use it. I feel like i need
to explain myself so no one
assumes terrible things
about me. surely, it isn't
out of line to assume that
you don't know what you are
talking about or how to
spell privacy instead of
piracy. honestly, neither
make any sense other than as
a means to beat someone
down.
<br>
<br>
and for those of you who let
this man abuse a fellow
tclug user; shame on you...
stand up to cyber bullying
or people will think that it
is alright and will escalate
to the point that a list
will go from 15 or so emails
a day to 1 or 2 a week which
mostly contain dissention;
not all of which is good.
that is where all the
newbies have gone . This
list is now for questions in
which you are passionate
enough about to push through
the BS.
<br>
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i hope the list that you were
invited to has a chance to
flourish and grow. Hopefully,
we can get more people
interested in linux and
maintain their interest with
positive discussions and
support. or not, whatever
just don't let people be
abusive and get away with it
on either list. please.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:35
PM, Sandwhich Eyes <span
dir="ltr">
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sandwhicheyes@gmail.com" target="_blank">sandwhicheyes@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>TCLUG is an
incredible entity.
It is and has been
for a long time.
Every time I ask a
simple question
and I get More
answers and
direction than I
could hope for. My
last question
which has been
posted in many
forums has yet to
compare to the
answers from this
TCLUG list. <br>
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What do you mean by
piracy? no one needs
piracy; piracy means
stealing right? Did
you mean privacy?
Yes we need privacy.
I don't want to poop
in front of people;
I do still need some
level of privacy.
<br>
</div>
TCLUG is a true cross
section of people from
so many backgrounds.
The willingness to
volunteer knowledge is
unsurpassed. That is
why I refuse to let go
even though I am some
distance from you all
at this point.<br>
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<div>On Fri, Sep
16, 2016 at 4:12
PM, Chuck Cole <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net"
target="_blank">cncole@earthlink.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span><span><span>TCLUG
isn't broke,
IMHO. Do we
need <span>piracy
or whatever</span>?</span></span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span><span><span></span></span></span> </div>
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feedback@slack.com</a> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:feedback@slack.com"
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Thursday,
September 15,
2016 2:48 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b>
<a
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href="mailto:john.trammell@gmail.com" target="_blank">john.trammell@gmail.com</a>
invited you to
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