<p dir="ltr">Bye.</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 17, 2016 11:04 AM, "Sandwhich Eyes" <<a href="mailto:sandwhicheyes@gmail.com">sandwhicheyes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><u><i><b>i think calling someone a thief by implying piracy is criminal.</b></i></u> i think that is clear. <br>if by attacking you mean pointing out when someone is randomly throwing accusations about people and criminal intent for setting up a slack account. do you not see that? do you all not see that when people are allowed to troll that it effects everyone? i have been on this list for over 10 years. i can see why there is no traffic on here anymore. i could stay and help put rude condescending and outright criminal behavior in check. but why, you are all adults. <br></div>i would ask for a consensus on this but i would guess if people speak up they would just get flamed and accused of piracy or some other super random accusation. <br></div>i wonder what percentage of this list are decent caring people? anyone care to speak up before i move on to other places? why am i attacking chuck, bist du blint?<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Chuck Cole <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net" target="_blank">cncole@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff">I was just "subscribed" to SLACK without my doing anything,
they got my name wrong, and I have no way to unsubscribe or
participate.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff">I'm one of the earliest members here, and have seen other
attempts to commandeer the group and change its nature
somehow.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff">"Sandwhich Eyes" seems to be a newbie here - on his
own podium, and missing a few clues.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff">We had no discussion of SLACK here, and no proposed basis
for another group using different software or leadership.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff">This appears to
be just-another-piracy-attempt of some sort. </font></span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff"></font></span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff">Has there been
any discussion or preface for this? My search showed
nothing.</font></span></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff"></font></span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><span><font face="Arial" size="4" color="#0000ff">Chuck</font></span></span></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.or<wbr>g</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list-bounces@mn-<wbr>linux.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan
Coleman<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:45 AM<br><b>To:</b>
TCLUG Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tclug-list] FW:
<a href="mailto:john.trammell@gmail.com" target="_blank">john.trammell@gmail.com</a> invited you to TCLUGon Slack<br></font><br></div><div><div>
<div></div>I think you’ve gone way over the edge on this one, brother.
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<div>We are all free peoples to choose how we wish. But why are you
attacking Chuck on his attempt to open a discussion?</div>
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<div>On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <<a href="mailto:sandwhicheyes@gmail.com" target="_blank">sandwhicheyes@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div><br>
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<div>Let me make a few assumptions here.<br></div>someone
offers you an invite to a list.<br></div>from that you, chuck cole,
call him a thief. <br></div>the list has low volume because people
who try to do good things get beat down, which is the opposite of
support.<br></div>i personally would like to know how you ended up
calling him a thief. why did you do that chuck? what is going through your
mind? you may not have said it in your head when you wrote it, but clearly
your predicate logic is indicative of exactly that. <br></div>no
one wants to get beat down by trolls. ever. your mom would be disappointed
in you, or she should be. you should let her know how you treat people. i am
disappointed in you. <br></div>if you had a question about linux as
a newbie would you ask it in this environment?<br></div>here is
what i propose. <br></div>this new list you were invited to was
started to give this list a fresh start and to try and revitalize a list to
provide people with answers to their questions and not be afraid to open
their email. seriously just ignore things that come in your precious email
box if you are offended.<br></div>when he did this he was either
called a thief; i have no idea why. it is even more confusing that no
one calls you out on this. you may even be implying that he is a
terrorist (if you meant privacy;) not sure where that would have come from
either. tor is a navy project released to the public to help hide their
traffic. so privacy isn't a bad thing, especially when it helps to protect
our country. (put that in their because ryan had suggested tor in an old
post (not saying anything bad about ryan so please don't be offended, only
trying to point out that tor provides privacy and it is fresh in my mind)
and while tor is neat and helping our government is good, i can't handle the
latency nor do i encrypt my stuff as i have lost too much stuff from hard
drive errors (no i don't use raid as i am poor. simple hard drive backup on
occasion and family photos get saved off site ever 6 months or so.) so i
don't use it. I feel like i need to explain myself so no one assumes
terrible things about me. surely, it isn't out of line to assume that you
don't know what you are talking about or how to spell privacy instead of
piracy. honestly, neither make any sense other than as a means to beat
someone down. <br><br>and for those of you who let this
man abuse a fellow tclug user; shame on you... stand up to cyber
bullying or people will think that it is alright and will escalate to the
point that a list will go from 15 or so emails a day to 1 or 2 a week which
mostly contain dissention; not all of which is good. that is where all the
newbies have gone . This list is now for questions in which you are
passionate enough about to push through the BS. <br><br></div>i hope the list that you were invited to has a chance to
flourish and grow. Hopefully, we can get more people interested in linux and
maintain their interest with positive discussions and support. or not,
whatever just don't let people be abusive and get away with it on
either list. please.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Sandwhich Eyes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sandwhicheyes@gmail.com" target="_blank">sandwhicheyes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>TCLUG is an incredible entity. It is and has been for a long
time. Every time I ask a simple question and I get More answers and
direction than I could hope for. My last question which has been posted in
many forums has yet to compare to the answers from this TCLUG list. <br></div>What do you mean by piracy? no one needs piracy; piracy
means stealing right? Did you mean privacy? Yes we need privacy. I don't
want to poop in front of people; I do still need some level of privacy.
<br></div>TCLUG is a true cross section of people from so many
backgrounds. The willingness to volunteer knowledge is unsurpassed. That
is why I refuse to let go even though I am some distance from you all at
this point.<br></div>
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<div>On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Cole <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net" target="_blank">cncole@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><span><font size="5"><span>TCLUG isn't broke, IMHO. Do we
need <span>piracy or
whatever</span>?</span></font></span></span></div>
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