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color=#0000ff size=4>Read the data: Meetup is a commercial
operation that charges a fee and has other "ownership" conditions that are
not clearly stated. My comments are only about avoiding selling
our names by giving out the mailing list to Meetup, and only
that.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org
[mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ryan
Coleman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 14, 2015 6:27 AM<BR><B>To:</B> TCLUG
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tclug-list] [ubuntu-us-mn] Penguins
Unbound is on Meetup!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Chuck,
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<DIV class="">It’s a secondary means to get people to know about it. There is
no requirement for you or anyone to register for it - in fact I can see
everything going on in my area RIGHT NOW without entering a single piece of
personal information.
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<DIV class="">It tells me where, when, who hosts… and I don’t have to sign
up.</DIV>
<DIV class="">Take a look at the MSP WP group post: <A class=""
href="http://www.meetup.com/Minneapolis-St-Paul-WordPress-User-Group/">http://www.meetup.com/Minneapolis-St-Paul-WordPress-User-Group/</A></DIV>
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<DIV class="">On Mar 14, 2015, at 6:16 AM, Ryan Coleman <<A class=""
href="mailto:ryan.coleman@cwis.biz">ryan.coleman@cwis.biz</A>>
wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV class="">Bull. Your personal issues with it are on topic - you brought
it up in the first place. <BR class=""></DIV>
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<DIV class=""><BR class="">On Mar 14, 2015, at 02:53, Chuck Cole <<A
class="" href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</A>>
wrote:<BR class=""><BR class=""></DIV>
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class="" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Irrelevant. Off
topic</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR class="">
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<FONT class="" face=Tahoma size=2><B class="">From:</B> <A class=""
href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</A>
[<A class=""
href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</A>]
<B class="">On Behalf Of </B>Ryan Coleman<BR class=""><B
class="">Sent:</B> Saturday, March 14, 2015 2:30 AM<BR class=""><B
class="">To:</B> TCLUG Mailing List<BR class=""><B class="">Subject:</B>
Re: [tclug-list] [ubuntu-us-mn] Penguins Unbound is on Meetup!<BR
class=""></FONT><BR class=""></DIV>
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<DIV class="">I'm taking about you. <BR class=""></DIV>
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<DIV class="">You have choice. Everyone has choice. </DIV>
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<DIV class="">On Mar 13, 2015, at 22:35, Chuck Cole <<A class=""
href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</A>>
wrote:<BR class=""><BR class=""></DIV>
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class="" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>John said he did sign
up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class="" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Meetup has required
signup. Not clear that is no longer
required.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR class="">
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<FONT class="" face=Tahoma size=2><B class="">From:</B> <A class=""
href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</A>
[<A class=""
href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</A>]
<B class="">On Behalf Of </B>Ryan Coleman<BR class=""><B
class="">Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2015 10:15 PM<BR class=""><B
class="">To:</B> TCLUG Mailing List<BR class=""><B
class="">Subject:</B> Re: [tclug-list] [ubuntu-us-mn] Penguins
Unbound is on Meetup!<BR class=""></FONT><BR class=""></DIV>
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<DIV class=""><BR class="">You. Do. Not. Need. To. Sign. Up. For.
It.</DIV>
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<DIV class="">Perhaps you missed it but he said already he keeps
posting it to the website.</DIV>
<DIV class=""><BR class="">On Mar 13, 2015, at 22:10, Chuck Cole
<<A class=""
href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</A>>
wrote:<BR class=""><BR class=""></DIV>
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<FONT class="" face=Tahoma size=2><B class="">From:</B> <A
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<B class="">On Behalf Of </B>Ryan Coleman<BR class=""><B
class="">Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2015 9:46 PM<BR class=""><B
class="">To:</B> TCLUG Mailing List<BR class=""><B
class="">Cc:</B> Ubuntu Minnesota Local Community Team<BR
class=""><B class="">Subject:</B> Re: [tclug-list]
[ubuntu-us-mn] Penguins Unbound is on Meetup!<BR
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<DIV class="">Wow. Posting it somewhere else to get more people
doesn't mean you have to register for the site. <SPAN
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class="" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Meetup
does,</FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class="">Get your head out of your keister. <BR
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<DIV class=""><BR class="">On Mar 13, 2015, at 21:06, Chuck Cole
<<A class=""
href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</A>>
wrote:<BR class=""><BR class=""></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=4>Publicity might not require selling the
mailing list as Meetup requires.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR
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<FONT class="" face=Tahoma size=2><B class="">From:</B> <A
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href="mailto:ubuntu-us-mn-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-mn-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com</A>
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<B class="">On Behalf Of </B>John Frisk<BR class=""><B
class="">Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2015 3:50 PM<BR
class=""><B class="">To:</B> Ubuntu Minnesota Local
Community Team<BR class=""><B class="">Cc:</B> TCLUG Mailing
List<BR class=""><B class="">Subject:</B> Re: [ubuntu-us-mn]
[tclug-list] Penguins Unbound is on Meetup!<BR
class=""></FONT><BR class=""></DIV>
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<P class="" dir=ltr>I respect people may not want to be a
part of meetup due to privacy concerns. I have the intention
of continuing to communicate the meetings using the <A
class=""
href="http://penguinsunbound.com/">penguinsunbound.com</A>
website. But as the coordinator of the group the
benefits were enough to cover the organizer dues
myself rather than trying to maintain self managed software.
Anyone concerned can continue to reference the website for
meeting times. I also felt we as a group could grow from the
other IT professionals in the twin cities already on meetup
that may not be aware of the group if they never had heard
of us before. </P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mar 13, 2015 2:45 PM, "Chuck Cole"
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href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</A>>
wrote:<BR class="" type="attribution">
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class="" face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Meetup is a
commercial firm that requires groups to pay group dues and
submit their member lists for their advertising
purposes. Not private or self-governed. Many
may not want their names submitted to this commercial
operation. I'd like to hear of Penguins things, but
not this way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT class="" face=Tahoma><B class="">From:</B> <A
class="" href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org"
target=_blank>tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</A>
[mailto:<A class=""
href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org"
target=_blank>tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</A>] <B
class="">On Behalf Of </B>John Frisk<BR class=""><B
class="">Sent:</B> Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM<BR
class=""><B class="">To:</B> TCLUG Mailing List; Ubuntu
Minnesota Local Community Team; <A class=""
href="mailto:penguinsunbound-announce@lists.ties2.net"
target=_blank>penguinsunbound-announce@lists.ties2.net</A><BR
class=""><B class="">Subject:</B> [tclug-list] Penguins
Unbound is on Meetup!<BR class=""></FONT><BR
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<DIV class="">Hello everyone,<BR class=""></DIV>We have
created a meetup site for Penguins Unbound. This
should enable us to better communicate group activities,
meeting times, place availability, etc. I hope all
interested will join meetup and RSVP for the March
21st 10AM meeting so I can get accurate attendance
numbers. This will also help on topic interest and
meeting place requirements. (Future dates will be added
once I get time).<BR class=""></DIV>
<DIV class="">The site: <A class=""
href="http://www.meetup.com/PenguinsUnbound/"
target=_blank>http://www.meetup.com/PenguinsUnbound/</A><BR
class=""></DIV>
<DIV class=""><BR class=""></DIV>I plan on talking a bit
about piwigo (the open source gallery software) <A
class="" href="http://piwigo.org/"
target=_blank>http://piwigo.org/</A><BR class=""><BR
class="">David may present some material he's been
working on about customer success in SaaS.<BR
class=""><BR class=""></DIV>I am waiting for
confirmation on the place but will announce it once that
is completed. More to come!<BR
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