<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Did you not read the page I sent you? No… Arrogance of the actual terms and citing WikiPedia as a reference just shows that you haven’t taken the time to understand the proposal.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You DO NOT HAVE TO SIGN UP ON THE PAGE TO KNOW ABOUT THE EVENT.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please stop replying to the tread. Please.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 14, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Chuck Cole <<a href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net" class="">cncole@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">

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<div dir="ltr" align="left" class=""><span class="322235813-14032015"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="4" class="">Read the data: Meetup is a commercial 
operation that charges a fee and has other "ownership" conditions that are 
not clearly stated.  My comments are only about avoiding selling 
our names by giving out the mailing list to Meetup, and only 
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  [<a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" class="">mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a>] <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Ryan 
  Coleman<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Saturday, March 14, 2015 6:27 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> TCLUG 
  Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [tclug-list] [ubuntu-us-mn] Penguins 
  Unbound is on Meetup!<br class=""></font><br class=""></div>
  <div class=""></div>Chuck,
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  <div class="">It’s a secondary means to get people to know about it. There is 
  no requirement for you or anyone to register for it - in fact I can see 
  everything going on in my area RIGHT NOW without entering a single piece of 
  personal information.
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  <div class="">It tells me where, when, who hosts… and I don’t have to sign 
  up.</div>
  <div class="">Take a look at the MSP WP group post: <a class="" href="http://www.meetup.com/Minneapolis-St-Paul-WordPress-User-Group/">http://www.meetup.com/Minneapolis-St-Paul-WordPress-User-Group/</a></div>
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    <div class="">On Mar 14, 2015, at 6:16 AM, Ryan Coleman <<a class="" href="mailto:ryan.coleman@cwis.biz">ryan.coleman@cwis.biz</a>> 
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    <div class="">Bull. Your personal issues with it are on topic - you brought 
    it up in the first place. <br class=""></div>
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    <div class=""><br class="">On Mar 14, 2015, at 02:53, Chuck Cole <<a class="" href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</a>> 
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      <div class="" dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="901075207-14032015"><font class="" face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="4">Irrelevant.  Off 
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        <font class="" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b class="">From:</b> <a class="" href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a> 
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        <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Coleman<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Saturday, March 14, 2015 2:30 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> TCLUG Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> 
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        <div class="">I'm taking about you. <br class=""></div>
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        <div class="">You have choice. Everyone has choice. </div>
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        <div class="">On Mar 13, 2015, at 22:35, Chuck Cole <<a class="" href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</a>> 
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          <div class="" dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="535203203-14032015"><font class="" face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="4">John said he did sign 
          up.</font></span></div>
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          <div class="" dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="535203203-14032015"><font class="" face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="4">Meetup has required 
          signup.  Not clear that is no longer 
          required.</font></span></div><br class="">
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            [<a class="" href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a>] 
            <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Coleman<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, March 13, 2015 10:15 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> TCLUG Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [tclug-list] [ubuntu-us-mn] Penguins 
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            <div class=""><br class="">You. Do. Not. Need. To. Sign. Up. For. 
            It.</div>
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            <div class="">Perhaps you missed it but he said already he keeps 
            posting it to the website.</div>
            <div class=""><br class="">On Mar 13, 2015, at 22:10, Chuck Cole 
            <<a class="" href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</a>> 
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                <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Coleman<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, March 13, 2015 9:46 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> TCLUG Mailing List<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b> Ubuntu Minnesota Local Community Team<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [tclug-list] 
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                <div class="">Wow. Posting it somewhere else to get more people 
                doesn't mean you have to register for the site. <span class="294260503-14032015"><font class="" face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="4"> </font></span></div>
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              <div class="" dir="ltr"><span class="294260503-14032015"><font class="" face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="4">Meetup 
              does,</font> </span></div>
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                <div class="">Get your head out of your keister. <br class=""><br class=""></div>
                <div class=""><br class="">On Mar 13, 2015, at 21:06, Chuck Cole 
                <<a class="" href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</a>> 
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                  <div class="" dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="574360402-14032015"><font class="" face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="4">Publicity might not require selling the 
                  mailing list as Meetup requires.</font></span></div><br class="">
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                    <font class="" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b class="">From:</b> <a class="" href="mailto:ubuntu-us-mn-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-us-mn-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com</a> 
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                    <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>John Frisk<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, March 13, 2015 3:50 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> Ubuntu Minnesota Local 
                    Community Team<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b> TCLUG Mailing 
                    List<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [ubuntu-us-mn] 
                    [tclug-list] Penguins Unbound is on Meetup!<br class=""></font><br class=""></div>
                    <div class=""></div><div class="" dir="ltr">I respect people may not want to be a 
                    part of meetup due to privacy concerns. I have the intention 
                    of continuing to communicate the meetings using the <a class="" href="http://penguinsunbound.com/">penguinsunbound.com</a> 
                    website. But as the coordinator of the group the 
                    benefits  were enough to cover the organizer dues 
                    myself rather than trying to maintain self managed software. 
                    Anyone concerned can continue to reference the website for 
                    meeting times. I also felt we as a group could grow from the 
                    other IT professionals in the twin cities already on meetup 
                    that may not be aware of the group if they never had heard 
                    of us before. </div>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 13, 2015 2:45 PM, "Chuck Cole" 
                    <<a class="" href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</a>> 
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                      <div class="" dir="ltr" align="left"><span class=""><font class="" face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="4">Meetup is a 
                      commercial firm that requires groups to pay group dues and 
                      submit their member lists for their advertising 
                      purposes.  Not private or self-governed.  Many 
                      may not want their names submitted to this commercial 
                      operation.  I'd like to hear of Penguins things, but 
                      not this way.</font></span></div>
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                      <div class="" dir="ltr" align="left"><span class=""><font class="" face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="4">Chuck</font></span></div><br class="">
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                        <font class="" face="Tahoma"><b class="">From:</b> <a class="" href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a> 
                        [mailto:<a class="" href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a>] <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>John Frisk<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, March 13, 2015 6:56 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b> TCLUG Mailing List; Ubuntu 
                        Minnesota Local Community Team; <a class="" href="mailto:penguinsunbound-announce@lists.ties2.net" target="_blank">penguinsunbound-announce@lists.ties2.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> [tclug-list] Penguins 
                        Unbound is on Meetup!<br class=""></font><br class=""></div>
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                        <div class="">Hello everyone,<br class=""></div>We have 
                        created a meetup site for Penguins Unbound.  This 
                        should enable us to better communicate group activities, 
                        meeting times, place availability, etc.  I hope all 
                        interested will join meetup  and RSVP for the March 
                        21st 10AM meeting so I can get accurate attendance 
                        numbers.  This will also help on topic interest and 
                        meeting place requirements. (Future dates will be added 
                        once I get time).<br class=""></div>
                        <div class="">The site: <a class="" href="http://www.meetup.com/PenguinsUnbound/" target="_blank">http://www.meetup.com/PenguinsUnbound/</a><br class=""></div>
                        <div class=""><br class=""></div>I plan on talking a bit 
                        about piwigo (the open source gallery software)  <a class="" href="http://piwigo.org/" target="_blank">http://piwigo.org/</a><br class=""><br class="">David may present some material he's been 
                        working on about customer success in SaaS.<br class=""><br class=""></div>I am waiting for 
                        confirmation on the place but will announce it once that 
                        is completed. More to come!<br class=""></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div>
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