<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 26, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Justin Krejci <<a href="mailto:jus@krytosvirus.com" class="">jus@krytosvirus.com</a>> wrote:</div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif" class=""><p class="">Ryan,<br class="">Where are you getting your odds from? And what do you mean by "outer areas" exactly? Outside of the 494/694 loop?<br class=""><br class=""></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In order to have this happen there are MANY working parts to consider:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) USI needs to have trunk capabilities. And right of way. Major roads are out of the question — Take a look at the coverage maps and see that Lyndale is not the main run through South Minneapolis which means I can never get fiber from them</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2) To keep the cost low USI needs to own the fiber. In the suburbs your best options today (and for many years to come) are owned by CenturyLink. I can get USI fiber in the burbs with a CL primary for about 10x the price of USI in Minneapolis.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">3) The cost to bury fiber is about $100/foot if you cannot directly bury the conduit. If you can dig and cover it’s about $10/foot (our termination point was about 1,800 feet from the building). </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The benefits and profits do not outweigh the costs for the production. So either USI leases cable from CenturyLink or Level3 - and that cost will be passed on to the customers. In the city USI has already seen a positive return and is likely going to turn a profit on the trenching in the next 5-10 years, but going from a hub to, say, Burnsville? My commute to Burnsville is 12 miles each day… If they have to use a DitchWitch™ the whole way that could easily cost more than $5,000,000. Can they turn that + the branch routes out of Burnsville in 10 years? Maybe, but that’s really a tall order. Not to mention the capital cost of the hardware - these switches at the distribution point are very expensive.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There’s a reason the Minneapolis WiFi project took off and succeed as quickly as it did: the general cost to product a pole node and connection back to the hub was about $4500 each. A little more or less depending on the link type (copper, fiber or radio) and then have a radio technician come back after the hardware is installed and lit up (powered) to tweak any settings if needed.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—</div><div class="">Ryan</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif" class=""><p class="">On 25.12.2014 14:02, Ryan Coleman wrote:</p>
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<div class="">Odds are the outer areas won’t get serviced simply due to cost - my last job had a quote for $20,000 to get 1GBE service to our office in Cottage Grove - and we had the school district literally across the highway.</div>
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<div class="">A while back I heard the story on MPR how Google fiber attracts entrepreneurs springing up shops like the kcstartupvillage in KC.<br class=""><br class=""></div>
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<div class="">TBH, I am quite tired of Comcast and hoping the City of Burnsville/Dakota County will get their act together and join the 21st century.</div>
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