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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>I would like to say 'Thank You' about/for all the great help with the following post: [Will GNU/Linux work with a MAC?]<br><br>It makes me think albit less likely to want to work with a Mac if the end user would prefer a nice Desktop consumer based web experience. <----While operating under Open Source Coding.<br><br>[Mac Power Book G4]<----noted throughout this posting.<br><br>Gentoo: Is a favorite topic of study <-----Thank you David Wagle for that.<br><br>There is alot to learn out there.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Sincerly, paul g <br><br><br><br><div>> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:23:56 -0500<br>> From: david.wagle@gmail.com<br>> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org<br>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will GNU/Linux work with a MAC?<br>> <br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> Hash: SHA1<br>> <br>> Be a little careful here:<br>> <br>> There's a real difference between being able to run on an old hardware<br>> standard and being able to support an old software standard.<br>> <br>> The latter requires coding in backward compatible crap, which becomes<br>> a support nightmare.<br>> <br>> The former merely requires that the current OS is compilable onto the<br>> platform and that drivers exist for it.<br>> <br>> Which, for PPC architecture, is the case.<br>> <br>> As I mentioned, Gentoo still runs just fine on 68k's, which have been<br>> out of production for 20 years. And let's not even get started on<br>> things like z80s.<br>> <br>> Now, that does mean that older hardware aficionados are going to be<br>> looking for source based distributions more often than not simply<br>> because the current distributions aren't goign to be producing the<br>> binaries due to a lack of hardware. But that's a long way from saying<br>> that the software won't work on the hardware.<br>> <br>> On 04/01/2014 08:40 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote:<br>> > One thing to keep in mind is PPC has been out of production for a <br>> > decade. You want a currently developed platform to work on a<br>> > 10-year old (at the newest) architecture.<br>> > <br>> > Good luck. Just because the OS supports something the software<br>> > developer of your packages needs to spend the time and money to<br>> > develop for it as well - that's a hard sell.<br>> > <br>> > I don't support browsers over 5years old in my web development<br>> > world because, well, they account for less than 1% of my customer<br>> > base.<br>> > <br>> > -- Ryan Coleman<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > On Mar 31, 2014, at 23:33, paul g <pj.world@hotmail.com <br>> > <mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com>> wrote:<br>> > <br>> >> Thanks Brian,<br>> >> <br>> >> I read through that information and then the comments as well<br>> >> found in the following link you sent.<br>> >> <br>> >> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-7-wheezy-install-flash-player/<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> <br>> I noted comment number 10 and 12. Comment 10 states: 'there may<br>> >> possibly be no backports for PowerPC'. Comment 12 states: You can<br>> >> use ftp or http. The package is available only for i386 and <br>> >> amd64.<----That is some cause for concern.<br>> >> <br>> >> I just spent the last few hours starting to try to understand<br>> >> about 4 pages in the Gentoo installation manual for PowerPC<br>> >> referenced in the following link.<br>> >> <br>> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc64.xml?part=1&chap=1<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> <br>> Perhaps it's time for me to consider Debian more seriously for this<br>> >> Mac truly it seems a little easier to setup for someone with<br>> >> little or no experience such as me with linux.<br>> >> <br>> >> Obviously the thought of getting 15 or maybe 20 years out of<br>> >> something like Gentoo has it's reward's and is worth reading<br>> >> more.<br>> >> <br>> >> Thanks,<br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >> <br>> >>> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:38:30 -0500 From: kc0iog@gmail.com<br>> >>> <mailto:kc0iog@gmail.com> To: tclug-list@mn-linux.org<br>> >>> <mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will<br>> >>> GNU/Linux work with a MAC?<br>> >>> <br>> >>> \On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:13 PM, paul g <pj.world@hotmail.com<br>> >> <mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com>> wrote:<br>> >>>> The thing that is upsetting for me is that Gnome 3 is<br>> >>>> preinstalled<br>> >> on Debian<br>> >>>> Wheezy, I do not like Gnome 3. I have used Debian Wheezy a<br>> >>>> little<br>> >> bit with a<br>> >>>> Sony Viao Laptop I own [it's currently installed on that pc]<br>> >>>> as of<br>> >> now.<br>> >>>> Initally after installation I struggled with<br>> >>>> Adobe-flashplayer under iceweasel. Still Adobe-flashplayer is<br>> >>>> not installed under<br>> >> iceweasel. Can't<br>> >>>> login to hotmail or gmail with iceweasel. I have been told<br>> >>>> that Google Chrome will support flash on Wheezy. I have not<br>> >>>> tried it<br>> >> personally yet.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> There are ISOs for Wheezy using the XFCE desktop. I dropped<br>> >>> Gnome a few years ago and haven't looked back.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> 64 bit:<br>> >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso<br>> >><br>> >> <br>> > 32 bit:<br>> >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso<br>> >><br>> >> <br>> > PPC:<br>> >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-powerpc-xfce-CD-1.iso<br>> >><br>> >> <br>> > <br>> >>> I think you'll find XFCE simple, lightweight, and fast. Much<br>> >>> closer to what you're used to with Gnome 2.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Flash does work on Wheezy. You need to add the non-free repo,<br>> >>> here's a good walkthrough: <br>> >>> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-linux-7-wheezy-install-flash-player/<br>> >><br>> >>> <br>> > <br>> >>> I use flash on my Wheezy box (amd64) without issues. It does<br>> >>> seem to work better in Chrome than iceweasel.<br>> >>> <br>> >>> Brian _______________________________________________ TCLUG<br>> >>> Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota <br>> >>> tclug-list@mn-linux.org <mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org> <br>> >>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list<br>> >> _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing<br>> >> List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list@mn-linux.org<br>> >> <mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org> <br>> >> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List<br>> > - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list@mn-linux.org <br>> > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list<br>> > <br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux)<br>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/<br>> <br>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTOsv5AAoJELWzpBXk2k3wyOEH/jQRMk4m4NS2sNWFdEGVUY/l<br>> n5x5FqhQ5e6ftyJ6/LHzBDVoFKUgcQu3Zz40EEDcBTm96DVT91O0RsWpYQmpphFC<br>> UZs6gsPjAZtgarqsb8o7/vfMNb67dQgk5fxHgp/cnBLrZw0dYx6LYfKEw3JLwXze<br>> 0uR6hYiXiF7SLVBIRu4vcDiGZOpE42DRhHIOhTDzwOGllsA8GfR2vp43/R7hfAcA<br>> uIqQfCo7DVa7sMdQsXgufea49uuggG6iIs8DeMU4V9Bl2SfWDI59MfAM8PTmNqzT<br>> AZZZsPQwYoShmrayj47PNzuCaVShOF0Sj2s0CxxJxHe8FIJsrlyQo+sxyUy1rpc=<br>> =iUQX<br>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br>> tclug-list@mn-linux.org<br>> http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list<br></div> </div></body>
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