<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Paul,<div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri;"><div dir="ltr"> It looks to me that in order to get the correct Ubuntu edition for the MAC is specifically a PowerPC download not just a standard .iso download, will work. </div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>That is correct - each build of an OS is targeted at a particular architecture.<div>i386 = 32-bit Intel-style CPUs (including AMD)</div><div>AMD64 = 64-bit Intel-style CPUs (including AMD)</div><div>Sparc = Sparc-based systems</div><div>etc. etc. etc. </div><div><br></div><div>I don’t know if you would want a PPC or MacPPC image. There are three different PPC processors in history:</div><div>1) IBM </div><div>2) Motorola</div><div>3) Apple (which is either IBM or Motorola depending on the model Macintosh).</div><div><br></div><div>Further reading (historical information, mainly):</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC</a></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM_alliance">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM_alliance</a></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 31, 2014, at 4:59 PM, paul g <<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div dir="ltr">Thanks Ryan,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>The deal here with this Power Book G4 is I am trying to help out a friend that knows some lesser about computers. run something newer than OSX Tiger. At this point Firefox is stuck at 3.5--- and flash is outdated etc. So without me knowing more about programming or whatever. I thought the best anwser I could come up with for an operating system for them would be use Ubuntu on the computer. It looks to me that in order to get the correct Ubuntu edition for the MAC is specifically a PowerPC download not just a standard .iso download, will work.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Thanks for the tips in the following post 'zapping parameter Ram' is important obviously.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Thanks,<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a href="mailto:ryanjcole@me.com">ryanjcole@me.com</a><br>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:37:58 -0500<br>To: <a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will GNU/Linux work with a MAC?<br><br>Paul,<div><br></div><div>It should be as simple as pressing the “option” key when you hear the chimes.<div><br></div><div>You can also load the OS and go to Preferences and choose Startup Disk (assuming OS X is installed) and select your Flash device.</div><div><br></div><div>Also if none of this is working zapping the parameter RAM will do some good. Press, and hold: Command, Option, P and R and let it cycle through a series of startup chimes without letting go. I usually do this 10 times to make sure it’s cleared out. This was a common tip for the PPC machines from Apple.</div><div><br></div><div>—</div><div>Ryan</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Mar 31, 2014, at 3:05 PM, paul g <<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div class="ecxhmmessage" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;"><div dir="ltr">I have done some more reading mostly on the Ubuntu PowerPC and guides as far as setup. It looks like booting from flash drive requires some steps. When I was in front of the Power Book 2 days ago. I tried holding down the c key during boot with the original osx driver disk in the cd-drive it did not load the cd and continued to load up to the splash screen. Either way it looks like I have a bunch more reading to do.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br><div><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:stuporglue@gmail.com">stuporglue@gmail.com</a><br>Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 09:47:15 -0500<br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Will GNU/Linux work with a MAC?<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><div class="ecxgmail_quote"><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr">You don't load a bios screen on a mac. However, to select your boot source, you hold down the command key when you power it on. After the beep you'll get a selection of boot locations that the computer can see at that time.<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Correct. Or, if you know you want to boot from the CD, just hold the "c" key (or maybe it's option-c) before the chime. </div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div></div>Once you have linux installed, you'll get the same thing. I think you'll need to install rEFIt or some other EFI boot manager as well.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not for PowerPC macs, EFI didn't pop up on Macs until they switched to Intel chips. </div><div><br></div><div>PowerPC Macs used Open Firmware, but you wouldn't want to get into Open Firmware like you would the Bios. The Mac's UI and magic key combos will be enough. You can always hold down option during boot to choose which device to boot from, and there are a bunch of other combos that are useful for this or that:</div></div><br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><a href="http://davespicks.com/writing/programming/mackeys.html#boot" target="_blank">http://davespicks.com/writing/programming/mackeys.html#boot</a><br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">--</div><div class="ecxgmail_extra">Michael Moore</div></div><br>_______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list" target="_blank">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list</a></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br><a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list" target="_blank">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list</a></div></blockquote></div><br><br>_______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota <a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a> <a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list</a></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br><a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>