<div dir="ltr">Paul, for the life of me I can't figure out why you're being so snarky towards Ryan (not Brian) when all he did was give you an answer to your question. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 11:27 PM, paul g <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Brian have you read the entire post athus far? I know you are very advanced. The built in of hp label software does not work over wifi. This is a Topic about GNU/Linux support with cups and I have learned alot but still have fax permission errors with the print server running Cups on a Linux Maya machine. I have no interest in Windows. <br>
<br>I have tried the chmods and followed David's input. I still don't know the octals of the 777 chomd command but that point is mute here.<br><br>There is a way to Fax over VOIP apparently support is not so great at Brother's similar to Lexmark. <br>
<br>I'm sorry to be a bother but at this point nothing but David search on and finding the link' <a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1368410.html" target="_blank">http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1368410.html</a><br>
<br>has helped alot I know this is a Linux forum and I should never have brought up any other operating system. <br><br>At this point I think its a matter of where files are placed 'permissions also' on the print server's operating system in order to be read with cups etc or absolutely no support with faxing under the GNU/Linux operating system. For the Brother model BRN-295CN printer.<br>
<br>I'm glad you enjoy Apple so much some of us can't afford them.<br><br><br><br><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:ryanjcole@me.com" target="_blank">ryanjcole@me.com</a><br>Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 22:39:49 -0600<div><div class="h5">
<br>To: <a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'<br><br><br><div><div>On Mar 1, 2014, at 10:10 PM, paul g <<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Understood and thanks for your input on this matter as well. I am currently still having 'problems' with the BRN-295CN fax ability and yes it does show up upon entering '<a href="http://localhost:631/printers%27" target="_blank">http://localhost:631/printers'</a><span> </span>among my home network which is 'Cups' based at this time. You are correct Ryan because in order to setup a Windows based printer one must install software on the computer in order for it to talk with the router or perhaps ad-hoc in order for the wireless enabled printer to work’.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That’s not what I meant. Drivers are implied, protocols are specific. My Mac, for example (the nearest thing I run to your setup) offers LPD, IPP and HP JetDirect (Socket) support. That’s what I mean. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Windows 7 was an example because me being a 'noob maybe very slow also' I attached a friends wireless printer to their home router on a Windows 7 computer recently and it was mind you difficult a bit.<span> </span><br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The print server is built into either:</div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>1) the computer (if plugged in via USB, Parallel or Firewire)</div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>2) the router (if plugged in via USB)</div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>3) the printer (if WLAN or LAN-based)</div><br><blockquote><div style="text-align:start;text-indent:0px"><div dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Are static ip addresses important when setting up a printer which is unattached physically from a print server 'the printer is alone in a room with no cords or cables except for the ac current’? </font><br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That depends on the protocol involved and what your computer is looking for. Many printers use Apple’s Bonjour and Windows’ NETBIOS (I may be on the wrong announcer service here - there are so damn many in Windows) to tell the world they exist on a network. They are helpful sometimes but clutter traffic more often than not</div>
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<div dir="ltr">So many questions.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So many answers.</div><br><blockquote><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
<div dir="ltr">Thank you for your time.<br><br><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:ryanjcole@me.com" target="_blank">ryanjcole@me.com</a><br>Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 20:43:43 -0600<br>To: <a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'<br><br>If it supports the correct protocols for Linux printing, yes. However a wireless Windows printer may not necessarily support anything else over WiFi.<div><br>
</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 1, 2014, at 5:00 PM, paul g <<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
<div dir="ltr">I suppose the printer could be alone in a room unattached to only a ac outlet and then it could be setup to talk with the wireless router and then the desktop computers can communicate with the printer through the router somehow kindof like setting up a wireless printing in windows 7?<br>
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Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'<br><br><div dir="ltr">I sure have learned some stuff today. I am going to have to work on understanding permissions alot.<span> </span><br><br>So what kindof relevance does any of the 'printers on board wireless dhcp/ip settings have at this point'? Is that mainly to setup the printer for a Windows wireless printing situation?<br>
<br><br><br><div><hr>Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 15:58:37 -0600<br>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:david.wagle@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.wagle@gmail.com</a><br>To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'<br><br><div dir="ltr">Because you have it configured to share that printer to the network<br></div><div><br><br><div>On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 3:48 PM, paul g<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="ltr">Another question I have for you is about the '<a href="http://localhost:631/admin/%27" target="_blank">http://localhost:631/admin/'</a><span> </span>command.<br>
<br>When I enter that command into the browser on the pc upstairs 'which is wireless on a DHCP networked router'. The Brother MFC-295CN printer shows up 'which is connected via USB cable to the pc downstairs 'which is also connected wirelessly to the router using DHCP. Why the heck is that anyways?<br>
<br>Thank you for caring and your help.<br><br><div><hr>Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 13:52:54 -0600<div><div><br>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:david.wagle@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.wagle@gmail.com</a><br>To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Paul - try this:<br><br></div>Open up a terminal<br></div>mkdir a play space: $mkdir ~/testdir<br></div>go there: $cd ~/testdir<br>
<br></div>create a file: $touch test<br><br></div><div>Look at it: $ls -l test<br><br></div><div>-rw------- 1 david users 0 Mar 1 13:45 test<br><br></div><div>play with chmod: $chmod 110 test<br></div><div>and see what it does: $ls -l test<br>
<br>---x--x--- 1 david users 0 Mar 1 13:45 test<br><br></div><div>try other values: $ chmod 421 test<br></div><div>and see what they do: $ ls -l test<br><br>-r---w---x 1 david users 0 Mar 1 13:45 test<br><br></div><div>
keep playing around till you understand how the number relate to permissions.<span> </span><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br><br><div>On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:41 PM, paul g<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="ltr">Very Very solid advice if I do say so myself. This is a bit over my head but I will try to figure it out. Thanks for all your help.<br>
<br><div><hr>Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 13:20:27 -0600<div><br>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:david.wagle@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.wagle@gmail.com</a><br>To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'<br><br><div dir="ltr">I should add -- unless you have reason to do so, don't change the group ownership. Rather, limit the permissions to that group.<br></div><div>
<br><br><div>On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:09 PM, David Wagle<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david.wagle@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.wagle@gmail.com</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>OK -- so understanding the numbers on modes:<br><br></div>There are three sets of permissions, those for the OWNER, the GROUP and WORLD.<span> </span><br><br>
</div>Each permission set is controlled by a bit string that is 4 bits long.<span> </span><br><br></div>If the first bit is a 1, then that group has read permissions.<span> </span><br><br></div>A bit string (base 2) of 0001 has a decimal value of 1 because 0x2^3 + 0x2^2 + 0x2^1 + 1x2^0 = 1 and corresponds to execute permission<br>
</div><br>A bit string (base 2) of 0010 has a decimal value of 2 because 0x2^3 + 0x2^2 + 1x2^1 + 0x2^0 = 2 and corresponds to write permission<br><br></div>A bit string (base 2) of 0100 has a decimal value of 4 because 0x2^3 + 1x2^2 + 0x2^1 + 0x2^0 = 4 and corresponds to read permission<br>
<br></div>The fourth bit is used for special permissions like "the sticky bit" and is really beyond the basics.<span> </span><br><br></div>Now, because the values of 1, 2 and 4 are bit-independent, any combination of those values is the equivilant of 'OR'ing the bit strings.<span> </span><br>
<br></div>So, if we want read and write permission we want both 4 and 2. That is we want the bit mask to be 011. Which is 0x2^3 + 1x2^2 + 1x2^1 + 0x2^0 = 6. Which is what you get if you add 4 + 2.<br><br></div><div>So a mask of, say 751 is RWX for Owner, R+X for Group and R for World.<span> </span><br>
<br></div><div>As for which link to follow --- without your box in front of me to troubleshoot, I really can't say "here's what to do."<br><br></div><div>However, I'd start with setting your library to minimal permission since what you're getting is a permissions error. That would be at least as strict as 660.<br>
<br></div><div>I would also then check that your users are in the same group as your print service -- which is usually 'wheel,' but not always.<span> </span><br></div></div><div><br><br><div>On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:35 PM, paul g<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="ltr">David thanks for the great link and advice.<span> </span><br><br>I will reset world with command? 'chown root:root brfaxfilter' <span> </span><br>
<br>I will then 'chmod go+x'<br><br>????<br><br>Can you please recommend which area of the link you sent I should possibly follow?<span> </span><br><br>There are chmod 555 and 700 's etc making me confused. <span> </span><br>
<br>I will restart 'cups' using the command 'sudo service cups restart'<br><br>Thanks alot for your help with this.<br><span style="font-size:17pt;line-height:26px;font-family:'High Tower Text',serif"></span><br>
<div><hr>Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 00:11:02 -0600<div><br>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:david.wagle@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.wagle@gmail.com</a><br>To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Looks like you're not the only one to run into this:<span> </span><br><br></div><a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1368410.html" target="_blank">http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1368410.html</a><br>
</div><div><br><br><div>On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:06 AM, David Wagle<span> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david.wagle@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.wagle@gmail.com</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Also - you probably have to restart CUPS to have it re-read the library.<span> </span><br></div><div><br><br><div>On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:03 AM, David Wagle<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david.wagle@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.wagle@gmail.com</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Paul - again, there's no reason for world permissions to be anything. Anyone authorized to use the service should be in the same group as the service.<span> </span><br>
</div><div><br><br><div>On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 7:36 PM, paul g<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Again I am sorry to repost BUT the following should be noted:<br><br>I am using a majic jack based telephone line system 'VOIP',<br><br>I have adjusted the MFC-295CN to 9600 baud rate 'fax',<br>
<br>I do of course have a high speed ethernet connection,<br><br>Your help is always appreciated.<br><br>Thank you for your time,<br><br>Paul G<br><div><br><br></div><div><div><hr>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pj.world@hotmail.com</a><br>
To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 19:16:31 -0600</div><div><br>Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'<br><br>
<div dir="ltr">I just preformed a 'chmod' command and permissions NOW look like this for the file:<br><br>located under: deb@deb-desktop /usr/lib/cups/filter $<span> </span><br><br>-rwxrw-rw- 1 root deb 5.2K Nov 24 2005 brfaxfilter<br>
<br>command I entered was:<br><br>sudo chmod go-x brfaxfilter<br><br>to remove execute.<br> <br>rebooted the machine same thing still shows up in Cups.<br><br><div><hr>Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 17:58:10 -0600<br>From:<span> </span><a href="mailto:david.wagle@gmail.com" target="_blank">david.wagle@gmail.com</a><br>
To:<span> </span><a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [tclug-list] A question about printing'<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>ls -l of /usr/lib/cups/filter/brfaxfilter<span> </span><br>
<br></div><div>Looks like you have a sticky bit set and have it 'rwx' for all. It really only probably needs to be 'rw-' for owner and group, and then any user who is allowed to use it should be in that group. There should be no need for a sticky bit to be set.<span> </span><br>
<br></div></div><div><br><br><div>On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:51 PM, paul g<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pj.world@hotmail.com" target="_blank">pj.world@hotmail.com</a>></span><span> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">I have successfully installed the 'CUPS' and the appropriate drivers for a model 'MFC-295CN' Brother printer.<span> </span><br><br>The machine is running kernel: Linux deb-desktop 3.2.0-59-generic #90-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 7 22:47:22 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux<br>
<br><br>I can print documents properly as well as scan them using xsane. Test page printout work great! also 'full color'.<br><br>My issue is with the accompanied 'BRFAX' which I have installed also uses 'Cups' is as follows:<span> </span><br>
<br>When I click on 'BRFAX' inside 'Cups'<br>Reports an error:<br><br>The error is as follows: 'shown in Cups'<br><br>Stopped - File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/brfaxfilter" has insecure permissions (0100777/uid=0/gid=0).<br>
<br>deb@deb-desktop /usr/lib/cups/filter $ ls -lah<br>-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5.2K Nov 24 2005 brfaxfilter<br><br>dpkg -l | grep Brother<br><br>ii brmfcfaxcups 1.0.0-2 Brother MFC/FAX fax share function driver<br>
ii brmfcfaxlpd 1.0.0-2 Brother MFC-FAX LPD driver<br>ii brother-udev-rule-type1 1.0.0-1 Brother udev rule type 1<br>
ii brscan-skey 0.2.4-1 Brother Linux scanner S-KEY tool<br>ii brscan3 0.2.11-4 Brother Scanner Driver<br>
ii mfc295cncupswrapper 1.1.3-1 Brother CUPS Inkjet Printer Definitions<br>ii mfc295cnlpr 1.1.3-1 Brother lpr Inkjet Printer Definitions<br>
ii printer-driver-ptouch 1.3-3ubuntu0.1 printer driver Brother P-touch label printers<br><br>Any ideas on where to go from here?<br><br>Thank You,<br><br>Paul G<br><br><br><br><br>
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