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    I think that was part of the reason why they did it :) <br>
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    linda<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/27/14, 1:16 PM, T L wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAE0VmCyj7UYE7NTBV79sBZuRH1rvX2o4+3OE__Xm1am39H-ZDg@mail.gmail.com"
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      <p dir="ltr">Re: trademark on ZFS  </p>
      <p dir="ltr">Just as OpenOffice and "Office" (TM owned by
        Microsoft) can coexist (from a trademark law perspective, at
        least) it is likely that ZFS and OpenZFS can. </p>
      <p dir="ltr">Thomas<br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 27, 2014 1:06 PM, "Linda Kateley"
        <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lkateley@kateley.com">lkateley@kateley.com</a>>
        wrote:<br type="attribution">
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I really hate to plug
            my business on a list, but this is what i do. I teach
            classes on zfs. If anyone is interested I thought I would
            put it out there...<br>
            <br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://kateleyco.com"
              target="_blank">kateleyco.com</a><br>
            <br>
            Most of the work I do is for a bunch of smallish zfs
            startups. I am actually creating freenas content right now.<br>
            <br>
            The reason I was hesitant on saying something definitive is
            I hadn't checked the news yet today. There can always be
            news. In april of last year Oracle reapplied for trademark
            on the word zfs. I have been waiting for them to do
            something with that :)<br>
            <br>
            linda<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <div>On 2/27/14, 12:48 PM, T L wrote:<br>
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              <p dir="ltr">Sorry that I was so terse this morning. </p>
              <p dir="ltr">OpenZFS, per se, is newer than the Oracle
                acquisition of Sun. </p>
              <p dir="ltr">There are many ZFS trees, these days. (And,
                in this era of distributed source control, that's not a
                big deal anyway. )</p>
              <p dir="ltr">Each of FreeBSD, ZFS on Linux, et al, have
                their own trees. OpenZFS isn't code -- its an umbrella
                organization to promote common development across the
                open source implementations of ZFS. </p>
              <p dir="ltr">There have been two recent Ars Technica
                articles on ZFS and btrfs that are well worth reading if
                you're interested in this space. (Even the comments are
                valuable, believe it or not!)</p>
              <p dir="ltr">Thomas<br>
              </p>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 27, 2014 9:46 AM, "Seth
                Miller" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:sethmiller.sm@gmail.com" target="_blank">sethmiller.sm@gmail.com</a>>

                wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                          <div>Thomas,<br>
                            <br>
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                          You are correct. OpenZFS is open source among
                          ports. ZFS is not.<br>
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                        It may be just a matter of semantics. When
                        Oracle acquired Sun, it locked down Solaris and
                        everything that belongs to it, including ZFS.
                        OpenZFS was developed as part of OpenSolaris
                        which is now discontinued.<br>
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                      What I should have said is Solaris ZFS is no
                      longer open source which is irrelevant in this
                      case so I stand corrected.<br>
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                    Seth<br>
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                                  <br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote"> On Thu, Feb
                                    27, 2014 at 7:31 AM, T L <span
                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:tlunde@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">tlunde@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                      <p dir="ltr">Seth -</p>
                                      <p dir="ltr">You are mistaken. See
                                        OpenZFS. </p>
                                      <p dir="ltr">They may be able to
                                        develop a proprietary fork, but
                                        you can't put the genie back in
                                        a bottle. </p>
                                      <p dir="ltr">Thomas</p>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb
                                        27, 2014 12:35 AM, "Seth Miller"
                                        <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:sethmiller.sm@gmail.com"
                                          target="_blank">sethmiller.sm@gmail.com</a>>

                                        wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Nice job
                                            Kateley.
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                                              <div class="gmail_extra">Keep
                                                in mind that ZFS is no
                                                longer open source since
                                                Oracle locked it down.</div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                                              <div class="gmail_extra">Seth</div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                <br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                  Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at
                                                  2:51 PM, B-o-B De Mars
                                                  <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mr.chew.baka@gmail.com"
                                                      target="_blank">mr.chew.baka@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                  wrote:<br>
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                                                    2/10/2014 2:31 PM,
                                                    Linda Kateley
                                                    wrote::
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                                                        So I am starting
                                                        to create some
                                                        small videos. I
                                                        just posted one
                                                        that is<br>
                                                        10 minutes to
                                                        Time Machine. If
                                                        anyone has a
                                                        second(or 10
                                                        minutes), maybe<br>
                                                        take a peak?
                                                        Give me only
                                                        positive
                                                        feedback :) my
                                                        ego is way too
                                                        fragile<br>
                                                        for negative
                                                        (again Smiley
                                                        face).<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <a
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href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2pyYeANGKc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2pyYeANGKc</a><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        The content is
                                                        probably way to
                                                        simple for this
                                                        crowd, but i
                                                        thought i<br>
                                                        would throw it
                                                        out here..<br>
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                                                    Very Nice video
                                                    Linda!
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