<p dir="ltr">Re: trademark on ZFS  </p>
<p dir="ltr">Just as OpenOffice and "Office" (TM owned by Microsoft) can coexist (from a trademark law perspective, at least) it is likely that ZFS and OpenZFS can. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Thomas<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 27, 2014 1:06 PM, "Linda Kateley" <<a href="mailto:lkateley@kateley.com">lkateley@kateley.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    I really hate to plug my business on a list, but this is what i do.
    I teach classes on zfs. If anyone is interested I thought I would
    put it out there...<br>
    <br>
    <a href="http://kateleyco.com" target="_blank">kateleyco.com</a><br>
    <br>
    Most of the work I do is for a bunch of smallish zfs startups. I am
    actually creating freenas content right now.<br>
    <br>
    The reason I was hesitant on saying something definitive is I hadn't
    checked the news yet today. There can always be news. In april of
    last year Oracle reapplied for trademark on the word zfs. I have
    been waiting for them to do something with that :)<br>
    <br>
    linda<br>
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    <div>On 2/27/14, 12:48 PM, T L wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">Sorry that I was so terse this morning. </p>
      <p dir="ltr">OpenZFS, per se, is newer than the Oracle acquisition
        of Sun. </p>
      <p dir="ltr">There are many ZFS trees, these days. (And, in this
        era of distributed source control, that's not a big deal anyway.
        )</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Each of FreeBSD, ZFS on Linux, et al, have their own
        trees. OpenZFS isn't code -- its an umbrella organization to
        promote common development across the open source
        implementations of ZFS. </p>
      <p dir="ltr">There have been two recent Ars Technica articles on
        ZFS and btrfs that are well worth reading if you're interested
        in this space. (Even the comments are valuable, believe it or
        not!)</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Thomas<br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 27, 2014 9:46 AM, "Seth Miller"
        <<a href="mailto:sethmiller.sm@gmail.com" target="_blank">sethmiller.sm@gmail.com</a>>
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                  <div>Thomas,<br>
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                  You are correct. OpenZFS is open source among ports.
                  ZFS is not.<br>
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                It may be just a matter of semantics. When Oracle
                acquired Sun, it locked down Solaris and everything that
                belongs to it, including ZFS. OpenZFS was developed as
                part of OpenSolaris which is now discontinued.<br>
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              What I should have said is Solaris ZFS is no longer open
              source which is irrelevant in this case so I stand
              corrected.<br>
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            Seth<br>
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                            On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:31 AM, T L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tlunde@gmail.com" target="_blank">tlunde@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                              <p dir="ltr">Seth -</p>
                              <p dir="ltr">You are mistaken. See
                                OpenZFS. </p>
                              <p dir="ltr">They may be able to develop a
                                proprietary fork, but you can't put the
                                genie back in a bottle. </p>
                              <p dir="ltr">Thomas</p>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 27, 2014
                                12:35 AM, "Seth Miller" <<a href="mailto:sethmiller.sm@gmail.com" target="_blank">sethmiller.sm@gmail.com</a>>
                                wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Nice job Kateley.
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                                      <div class="gmail_extra">Keep in
                                        mind that ZFS is no longer open
                                        source since Oracle locked it
                                        down.</div>
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                                      <div class="gmail_extra">Seth</div>
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                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon,
                                          Feb 17, 2014 at 2:51 PM, B-o-B
                                          De Mars <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mr.chew.baka@gmail.com" target="_blank">mr.chew.baka@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                          wrote:<br>
                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On
                                            2/10/2014 2:31 PM, Linda
                                            Kateley wrote::
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                                                So I am starting to
                                                create some small
                                                videos. I just posted
                                                one that is<br>
                                                10 minutes to Time
                                                Machine. If anyone has a
                                                second(or 10 minutes),
                                                maybe<br>
                                                take a peak? Give me
                                                only positive feedback
                                                :) my ego is way too
                                                fragile<br>
                                                for negative (again
                                                Smiley face).<br>
                                                <br>
                                                <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2pyYeANGKc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2pyYeANGKc</a><br>
                                                <br>
                                                The content is probably
                                                way to simple for this
                                                crowd, but i thought i<br>
                                                would throw it out
                                                here..<br>
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                                            Very Nice video Linda!
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