i am srictly on this list to provide comic relief.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Samael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samael.anon@gmail.com">samael.anon@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">oh shoot, another unhappy customer...<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Dan Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dan.smith225@gmail.com" target="_blank">dan.smith225@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">In regards to the VMware discussion thread that I started yesterday. I now regret it. Honestly it sounds like nobody on this list actually value's older software. VMware ESXi 3.5i is 32bit software that does not require virtualization on a CPU with the VT extensions. Yes it would help in a virtual environment, but is not required. And, FYI, there are two versions of VMware ESXi 3.5 (32bit) and Vmware ESXi 4 (64bit only). <br>
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1. Re: Meeting (Robert Nesius)<br>
2. Re: Meeting (Ryan Coleman)<br>
3. Re: Meeting (Mike Miller)<br>
4. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Elvedin Trnjanin)<br>
5. Re: Meeting (Erik Mitchell)<br>
6. Re: Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi. (Tony Yarusso)<br>
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:09:27 -0600<br>
From: Robert Nesius <<a href="mailto:nesius@gmail.com" target="_blank">nesius@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting<br>
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Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St.<br>
Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get<br>
over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no<br>
path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get across<br>
Edina and Bloomington.<br>
<br>
-Rob<br>
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <<a href="mailto:simmonsj@redkeep.com" target="_blank">simmonsj@redkeep.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to<br>
> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul.<br>
><br>
> Simmons<br>
><br>
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 00:33:42 -0600<br>
From: Ryan Coleman <<a href="mailto:ryanjcole@me.com" target="_blank">ryanjcole@me.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting<br>
To: TCLUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a>><br>
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Robert,<br>
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You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights.<br>
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--<br>
Ryan<br>
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On Jan 20, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius wrote:<br>
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> Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St. Cloud area. Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no path that wasn't completely stacked up. Took me 45 minutes to get across Edina and Bloomington.<br>
><br>
> -Rob<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <<a href="mailto:simmonsj@redkeep.com" target="_blank">simmonsj@redkeep.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul.<br>
><br>
> Simmons<br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br>
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:03:26 -0600 (CST)<br>
From: Mike Miller <<a href="mailto:mbmiller%2Bl@gmail.com" target="_blank">mbmiller+l@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting<br>
To: TCLUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a>><br>
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Ryan Coleman wrote:<br>
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> You should consider 55 through Minneapolis and grabbing 110 or Pilot<br>
> Knob. Usually a much smoother ride, albeit one with 10 stoplights.<br>
<br>
<br>
Sometimes it's even better to get on the river road. Take the West river<br>
road down to Franklin or Lake or Ford and cross over to the East. From<br>
there you can get on Rt. 5. You might only to 25 mph, but you won't hit<br>
any lights. I've used it to get from the U to the airport at rush hour<br>
and it works great.<br>
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Mike<br>
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:08:59 -0600<br>
From: Elvedin Trnjanin <<a href="mailto:trnja001@umn.edu" target="_blank">trnja001@umn.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.<br>
To: TCLUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a>><br>
Cc: Dan Smith <<a href="mailto:dan.smith225@gmail.com" target="_blank">dan.smith225@gmail.com</a>><br>
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On 1/20/2011 11:31 PM, Dan Smith wrote:<br>
> Tclug,<br>
><br>
> I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd<br>
> start here before having to make another user account in another<br>
> system somewhere...<br>
><br>
> I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm<br>
> looking to find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it.<br>
ESXi supports less hardware than ESX. If you don't have licenses to<br>
spare, this means you're a bit out of luck and have to go with the free<br>
version which is only limited to ESXi.<br>
><br>
> System Specs are as follows:<br>
> Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors<br>
> Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives.<br>
> 4gb's of ram<br>
> Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller.<br>
Generally the storage controller is most likely device not to be supported<br>
><br>
> This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver<br>
> LP2000R running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster<br>
> server until I'm able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's<br>
> to run Hypervisor 4 or have a enviroment to work with hyper-v.<br>
You may be able to save some money by going with tower servers instead<br>
of rack mounted ones. Dell typically has great deals on them.<br>
><br>
> If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware<br>
> ESX or ESXi product, please let me know.<br>
No experience with this server model, but you might want to look into<br>
ESX\ESXi version 2 although you may not be able to get licenses for it.<br>
Another option is the hosted VMware Server which runs in Windows or<br>
Linux as it will more likely support your hardware.<br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
> -<br>
> Dan<br>
> Email: <a href="mailto:dan.smith225@gmail.com" target="_blank">dan.smith225@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dan.smith225@gmail.com" target="_blank">dan.smith225@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:55:05 -0600<br>
From: Erik Mitchell <<a href="mailto:erik.mitchell@gmail.com" target="_blank">erik.mitchell@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Meeting<br>
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Robert,<br>
The Roseville location might not be any worse, although I can't speak<br>
to traffic. You'd just stay on 694 until you hit 35W, and go south<br>
from there to 36, and over to Snelling. If traffic is the same I would<br>
think the travel time from St. Cloud would be the same to Roseville<br>
and SLP.<br>
<br>
-Erik<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Robert Nesius <<a href="mailto:nesius@gmail.com" target="_blank">nesius@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Something in St. Louis Park I'd considering trucking it in from the St.<br>
> Cloud area.? Getting over to Eagan looks tricky - last time I tried to get<br>
> over to the airport across the south metro during rush hour there was no<br>
> path that wasn't completely stacked up.? Took me 45 minutes to get across<br>
> Edina and Bloomington.<br>
><br>
> -Rob<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:41 AM, J.A. Simmons V <<a href="mailto:simmonsj@redkeep.com" target="_blank">simmonsj@redkeep.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I know of a security group in the area that does a rotating meeting to<br>
>> solve this problem. One month in Minneapolis, one month in St. Paul.<br>
>> Simmons<br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br>
>> <a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
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>><br>
><br>
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> _______________________________________________<br>
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> <a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
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><br>
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<br>
--<br>
Erik K. Mitchell -- Web Developer<br>
<a href="mailto:erik.mitchell@gmail.com" target="_blank">erik.mitchell@gmail.com</a><br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 06:11:30 -0600<br>
From: Tony Yarusso <<a href="mailto:tonyyarusso@gmail.com" target="_blank">tonyyarusso@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.<br>
To: TCLUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a>><br>
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <<a href="mailto:dan.smith225@gmail.com" target="_blank">dan.smith225@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> System Specs are as follows:<br>
> Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors<br>
<br>
Running a virtualization system on a processor without the<br>
virtualization instruction set extensions will either be impossible or<br>
just woefully inadequate, depending on the type. I'm not sure which<br>
type VMware ESX is, but either way I wouldn't expect this to work<br>
*well*, if at all.<br>
<br>
- Tony<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:32:57 -0600<br>
From: "Patrick \"Finn\" Robins" <<a href="mailto:13.finn@gmail.com" target="_blank">13.finn@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.<br>
To: TCLUG Mailing List <<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org" target="_blank">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a>><br>
Message-ID:<br>
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I have to second that. Virtualization on a CPU without the VT extensions is<br>
a big performance hit.<br>
<br>
<br>
-Patrick "Finn" Robins<br>
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:09:30 -0600<br>
From: Chris Niesen <<a href="mailto:chris.niesen@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.niesen@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Looking for assistance with VMware ESXi.<br>
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ESXi requires a 64 bit processor. Don't waste your time.<br>
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Dan Smith <<a href="mailto:dan.smith225@gmail.com" target="_blank">dan.smith225@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Tclug,<br>
><br>
> I know this isn't the vmware communities (VMUG) but, I thought I'd start<br>
> here before having to make another user account in another system<br>
> somewhere...<br>
><br>
> I have a HP Proliant DL360 (G1) it's about 10 years old and I'm looking to<br>
> find out if I can install VMware Hypervisor (ESXi) 3.5i on it.<br>
><br>
> System Specs are as follows:<br>
> Dual P3 (1ghz) Processors<br>
> Dual 72.8gb Ultra320 SCSI drives.<br>
> 4gb's of ram<br>
> Looks like it's using the integrated Smart Array Controller.<br>
><br>
> This is the faster of my two servers. I also have a HP Netserver LP2000R<br>
> running VMware ESXi 3.5i, but would like a little faster server until I'm<br>
> able to afford a few Dell PowerEdge 1850's or 2850's to run Hypervisor 4 or<br>
> have a enviroment to work with hyper-v.<br>
><br>
> If anyone has experience with this server model installing a VMware ESX or<br>
> ESXi product, please let me know.<br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
> -<br>
> Dan<br>
> Email: <a href="mailto:dan.smith225@gmail.com" target="_blank">dan.smith225@gmail.com</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br>
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