i think knoppix std uses it???<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Michael Berkowski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjb@umn.edu">mjb@umn.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">On 1/18/2011 12:17 PM, Drmgiver wrote:<br>
> So, I have spent many years with Ubuntu, but I just recently fell in<br>
> love with WindowMaker. Learning a bit about it I have found out that it<br>
> isn't used very often any longer. But I am curious if anyone out there<br>
> knows of any distro who uses it by default?<br>
<br>
</div>To me, it's almost a little incongruous to think of a classic window<br>
manager like Window Maker (or JWM, TWM, or my preferred FVWM, etc) as a<br>
"default" distribution component, since all of these act independently<br>
of the desktop integration aimed at by popular modern distributions.<br>
Puppy Linux uses (at my last encounter, ca 4.0) JWM as a default. If<br>
you uncheck the gnome box when installing Red Hat, you'll fall back to TWM.<br>
<br>
Instead, the classic bare window managers represent what I like most<br>
about running Linux. They are components as much as is your web browser<br>
or mail client, but usually invite (or require, in the case of FVWM) a<br>
very deep level of customization on which to fine-tune one's work<br>
environment. That's what I see as a poor fit for distributions in<br>
general -- a distribution, pretty much by definition, makes decisions<br>
about software inclusion to address either a very specific set of needs,<br>
or more commonly the most general set possible. In either case though,<br>
it's directed at specific/broad *groups of users*. In contrast, the<br>
classic window managers are better suited to selection & use by an<br>
individual who really understands his or her specific needs, keyboarding<br>
habits, window arrangement preferences, etc.<br>
<br>
My $0.02,<br>
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