<font face="garamond,serif">The GNUstep environment is a bundle of WindowMaker and other software using Ojective-C and related OpenStep-clone bits.</font><div><font face="garamond,serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="garamond,serif">It's not quite a disto of it's own, but can be applied to run on top of other distros and be a pretty complete makeover.</font></div>
<div><font face="garamond,serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="garamond,serif">This ( <a href="http://io.debian.net/~tar/gnustep/">http://io.debian.net/~tar/gnustep/</a> ) site describes the environment, includes a link to a live-CD to test drive it, package lists, and instructions to install.</font></div>
<div><font face="garamond,serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="garamond,serif">Having used NeXT in it's time, the full GNUstep bit does create a remarkably similar experience, though far more useful as you will have access to the full range of modern executables which would be nigh impossible to make work on NeXT- or Openstep.</font></div>
<div><font face="garamond,serif"><br clear="all"></font>Kris Browne<br><a href="mailto:kris.browne@gmail.com">kris.browne@gmail.com</a><br>612-353-6969<br>612-408-4431<br><a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/kris.browne">http://www.google.com/profiles/kris.browne</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 15:48, Samael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:samael.anon@gmail.com">samael.anon@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
i think knoppix std uses it???<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Michael Berkowski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mjb@umn.edu" target="_blank">mjb@umn.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 1/18/2011 12:17 PM, Drmgiver wrote:<br>
> So, I have spent many years with Ubuntu, but I just recently fell in<br>
> love with WindowMaker. Learning a bit about it I have found out that it<br>
> isn't used very often any longer. But I am curious if anyone out there<br>
> knows of any distro who uses it by default?<br>
<br>
</div>To me, it's almost a little incongruous to think of a classic window<br>
manager like Window Maker (or JWM, TWM, or my preferred FVWM, etc) as a<br>
"default" distribution component, since all of these act independently<br>
of the desktop integration aimed at by popular modern distributions.<br>
Puppy Linux uses (at my last encounter, ca 4.0) JWM as a default. If<br>
you uncheck the gnome box when installing Red Hat, you'll fall back to TWM.<br>
<br>
Instead, the classic bare window managers represent what I like most<br>
about running Linux. They are components as much as is your web browser<br>
or mail client, but usually invite (or require, in the case of FVWM) a<br>
very deep level of customization on which to fine-tune one's work<br>
environment. That's what I see as a poor fit for distributions in<br>
general -- a distribution, pretty much by definition, makes decisions<br>
about software inclusion to address either a very specific set of needs,<br>
or more commonly the most general set possible. In either case though,<br>
it's directed at specific/broad *groups of users*. In contrast, the<br>
classic window managers are better suited to selection & use by an<br>
individual who really understands his or her specific needs, keyboarding<br>
habits, window arrangement preferences, etc.<br>
<br>
My $0.02,<br>
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<font color="#888888">Michael Berkowski<br>
Minitex / MnLINK Linux Systems Administrator and Programmer<br>
University of Minnesota<br>
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+++++++++++++++++<br>
<br>
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