i got started at Kurzweil Computer Products programming page perusal for the Kurzweil Reading Machine for the Blind. when it kept crashing, i wrote a memory test to prove it was the hardware. that led to writing more diagnostics, then realtime control. that was DG nova and derivatives. then we switched to SunOS for development. a few years later i'm having a blast, much more fun than staring contests with crt's, pulling wires with friends, installing networks and linux servers, but then also tweaking databases and javascript, and sheparding virtual linux services, all as a contractor these days. why linux? it's the grassroots groundswell community of computing. what the world needs today, is to bring that mindset enthusiastically into manifesting community level grassroots groundswells of sustainable soft energy technology. yes you have my permission, with attribution of course. -gregwm<br>