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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org [mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Ryan Coleman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 20, 2010 10:29
AM<BR><B>To:</B> TCLUG Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tclug-list]
[tcwug-list] WiMaxx<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Chuck:
<DIV>Exposing them?</DIV>
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<DIV>Did you read anything there? Or just assume that USI would have unsecured
transmissions of the information?<SPAN class=500555918-20082010><FONT
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size=4>I'm not so naive as to believe those connections are truly secure in all
ways. Harvesting the data is the problem. Harvested data can leak or
be disclosed or stolen in many ways. Superficial security does not insure
anything when servers are attacked or break in babbling modes, etc. I
think such systems are bad alternatives to types we already have. My cell
phone gives me internet access, qnd is probably a much more secure pipe than any
public WiMax could be, since it begins with a hardware key and adds more
keys. WiMax may offer better data rate, but my call has more locations,
and good free hotspots are still widely available when I need better
bandwidth. For now, free hotspots are likely to be far more prevalent than
public WiMax spots. I see only downsides to WiMax, especially if
coax/fiber broadband and TV still feeds the home or business.
YMMV.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Chuck Cole wrote:</DIV><BR
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[mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ryan
Coleman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
TCLUG Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tclug-list] [tcwug-list]
WiMaxx<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><SPAN class=984421605-20082010><FONT face=Arial size=4>Thanks,
but disclosing credit card IDs in and to public sites isn't attractive to
me, even if sometimes presumed safe. Not the same as free and open
hotspots we already have. NOT a desirable plan or function,
IMHO. We're supposed to believe that toilet seats in public restrooms
are really clean, right?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=4>How does one identify where the free zones are? These
services are bad for non-residents, because they discourage free zones
being installed so those who only visit on business can use it - or go
to another city that has more free spots.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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