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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>If you're talking about long words in German, you ought to
check out Mark Twain's essay on "The Awful German Language." </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=nesius@gmail.com href="mailto:nesius@gmail.com">Robert Nesius</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tclug-list] What distros do
you no longer use?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Sorry Chuck. Your wikipedia article doesn't contain a
cited source. If you're going to lob monkey poo in a flame war, at least
have the sense to not cite a wikipedia article that itself does not contain a
verifiable citation. While there may be <I>something</I> to the origin
of the word, I'm forced to consider it unsubstantiated none-the-less.
<BR><BR>That doesn't mean I don't like it. In fact, I love it.
<BR><BR>Can we come up with a long, ridiculous german word for "flame war on
the proper use of german on the internetz as it pertains to
schutzengrabenabwehrvernichtungskraftfahrwagen?" I bet that would be
hella-long. <BR><BR>-Rob <BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Chuck Cole <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote>Check the web and correct those sources. This is not
my invention: I used several web references to refresh my memories from
German and linguistics. This is prevalent, if not entirely precise and
accurate.<BR><BR><A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Language/2006_December_11"
target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Language/2006_December_11</A><BR><BR><BR>My
German teacher back in college is where I first heard this, and later in
linguistic refrences. Perhaps you don't have enough gray hair.
This *is* a linguist's issue, and you say that is not your strength.
Long concatenations were common German usage 40 or more years ago, but
I would not be surprised to find that modern usage has moved away from that
as technology lingo became more commonplace and concatenation too
cumbersome.<BR><BR>Sorry, but yours is the specious and undocumented
bullshit.<BR><BR>Chuck<BR><BR><BR><BR>> -----Original
Message-----<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</A><BR>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</A>]On
Behalf Of Munir Nassar<BR>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:44
AM<BR>> To: TCLUG Mailing List<BR>> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] What
distros do you no longer use?<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010
at 18:39, Chuck Cole <<A
href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > Language perspective, not argument: The old German
WWI word<BR>> for a military<BR>> > tank was
"schutzengrabenabwehrvernichtungskraftfahrwagen". That was a<BR>>
> Guiness record for word length. Is there any wonder why it wasn't
long<BR>> > before people more often used "tank". Even Germans
often used a shorter<BR>> > term "panzerauto" by WWII. I'm among
those that prefer the shorter term<BR>> > Linux and find GNU
adequately embedded, as are Torvald, open source<BR>> > operating
system, etc.<BR>><BR>> I call bullshit, i am not a linguist, but i
speak german. Contrary to<BR>> popular belief stringing together any
number of words does not work,<BR>> they have to make sense. "Schutzen
Graben" is a defensive ditch,<BR>> "Abwehr" is counter fire or defence,
"vernichtung" is destruction,<BR>> "kraft" is power, usually a prefix to
a machine. ("LKW", or "Last<BR>> Kraft Wagen" is heavy load power
automobile or what we would call a<BR>> truck, tractor trailer) "fahr" is
drive, and "wagen" is wagon/car. As<BR>> you can see stringing these
words together is rather nonsensical, at<BR>> best i can translate it to
mean: the destruction of the defence(noun)<BR>> in the defensive ditch
with a drivable powered wagon.The german<BR>> wikipedia article calls the
first german tank: "schweren Kampfwagen"<BR>> or Heavy Combat
Wagon.<BR>><BR>> as for the 2nd word, the pre-WW2 german word for tank
was "Schwerer<BR>> Schlepper", which means Heavy Tractor. the reason
being is that<BR>> Germany was forbidden from building any sort of
offensive military<BR>> equipment and the soldiers and everybody who knew
about these<BR>> "tractors" was most likely sure to be told to keep their
mouths shut<BR>> to keep the secret in(not that it really was a secret).
in any case<BR>> the official name for tank in German before and during
WW2 was "Panzer<BR>> Kampf Wagen", Armoured Combat Wagon, and would most
likely be<BR>> shortened to Panzer or PanzerWagen or referred to by their
military<BR>> designation (Panzer III, Tiger I, Panther). PanzerAuto
would refer<BR>> more to an armoured car.<BR>><BR>>
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