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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'>Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks for the response. I was looking for something
that would be a step up yet as far as security. Also,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'>Something that is more user friendly to others after
it is setup. Are there gui’s available??? <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'>I am also thinking multiple users and folders???<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'>Maybe asking to much Hi Hi.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle15><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></span></p>
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normal'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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normal'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><!--[if supportFields]><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><span style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail
Signature" <span style='mso-element:field-separator'></span></span></font><![endif]--><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><span style='mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>Thomas
Rieff</span></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=5
color=green face=Arial><span style='font-size:16.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;
color:green'>GreenCare<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=3
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>1717 3rd
Avenue<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=3
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Mankato, MN
56001<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=3
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>(507)
344-8314 Office<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoAutoSig><b><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold'>(507) 344-8316
Fax<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
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color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:12:28 -0500 (CDT)</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>From: Mike Miller <mbmiller+l@gmail.com></span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
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color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>Subject: Re: [tclug-list] FTP Server</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
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color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>To: TCLUG <tclug-list@mn-linux.org></span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>Message-ID:
<alpine.DEB.2.00.0904041605300.496@taxa.psych.umn.edu></span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII;
format=flowed</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>On Sat, 4 Apr 2009, Thomas Rieff wrote:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>> What would be available to use as a FTP
server that would be user & </span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>> password protected. We sometimes have
files that are to large to email </span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>> and need to post them on the web for a select
individual. Any </span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>> thoughts???</span></font></b><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>It depends on the amount of security you are
after.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>The lowest level is </span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>to use ordinary http with .htaccess files to
force users to enter </span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>passwords.<span style="mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>I do that a lot.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</span>It isn't "secure" in the usual sense but it </span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>keeps most people out, it is easy and it might
be all you need.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>If you </span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>want better security, you need to use https and
good passwords.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>FTP is </span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>inherently insecure because passwords are
transmitted as plain text that </span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>can be read by anyone snooping on the network
(the same is true for http </span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'>which is why https is more secure -- encrypted
for security).</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><b
style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black;font-weight:normal'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New";color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:normal'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b style='mso-ansi-font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black;font-weight:normal'>Mike</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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