<div dir="ltr">While I support GNU, and recognize the significance of associating GNU with Linux, I do not think changing the groups name is necessary, nor a good idea.<br><br>First, unless someone is specifically talking about the Linux Kernel, the term "Linux" has become a term which encompasses the kernel as well as supporting GNU software. I know by textbook definition Linux refers to the kernel only, but I think its
safe to say that by the popular consensus, people have redefined (coined if you will) the term to
include the entire OS. I would submit an argument saying that by using the word "Linux", people are (most of the time) referring to the GNU/Linux package. <br><br>Second, the term LUG has its own, well known definition. GLUG is confusing, unknown to people, as as stated in my first argument I feel that the term Linux implies the inclusion of GNU software. <br>
<br>As stated before, KISS. <br><br>Just my two cents, I am open to friendly debate on the issue!<br><br>Cheers,<br>Andy<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Chuck Cole <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cncole@earthlink.net">cncole@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
<br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org">tclug-list-bounces@mn-linux.org</a>]On Behalf Of Mike Miller<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:02 AM<br>
> To: TCLUG List<br>
> Subject: Re: [tclug-list] TC*G*LUG<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Chuck Cole wrote:<br>
><br>
> > The KISS version of the name works for most folks...<br>
> > and was what was chosen first,<br>
> > and was chosen by folks who knew of Stallman (etc) when they chose.<br>
><br>
> Well the first name used for the system was GNU, wasn't it? Then Linus<br>
> wrote a kernel and named it Linux, after himself, and said that it was<br>
> "nothing" without GNU. So why don't we call the system that includes the<br>
> Linus' kernel GNU, which was its original name?<br>
><br>
> The fact that many people call it Linux doesn't imply that we shouldn't<br>
> call it GNU/Linux. The name serves a useful purpose by promoting an<br>
> ideal.<br>
><br>
> Mike<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>KISS.. otherwise we must give credit to von Neumann, and Amazing Grace (et al) whose contributions made GNU possible and are<br>
essential today for any instance or artifact of GNU or Linux that runs. Whenever we give a name, we shorten the full etymology and<br>
genealogy for various reasons that are best approximated as KISS. Clarify in a website in a history paragraph so it's duly noted,<br>
but don't expect everyone to change speech or writing in everyday usage. Life and language are full of examples of KISS terminology<br>
or nicknames, etc. How about Neumann-GNU-Linux... to remember and give credit to the top ten or twenty whose works are about<br>
equally essential ?<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Chuck<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota<br>
<a href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</a><br>
<a href="http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list" target="_blank">http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>