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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As far as Linux ands XP cohabiting on the same
disk, I have been doing just that for about 6 or 7 years. There's really no
trick involved, it's a matter of following a procedure thart delivers what you
want.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's my working model, a simple one hard-drive
configuration:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Make sure the drive is bight enough. I wouldn't
recommend anything smaller than 60 Gigabytes, preferably more.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The first thing you should do is decide how to
partition up the disk. The following scheme I have used is based on the ideas
that (1) There will be one partition for Windows, and roughly 3 for a simple
home desktop Linux installation, and (2) the bootloader "grub" is going to be
used every time the machine powers up. Grub comes with Redhat/Fedora. It is the
first post-BIOS.program to run. In Nick's case, grub will easily boot ether
Linux or Windows XP with no trouble. I'm sure there are other bootloaders out
there, but grub is the one I know.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>First, you will partition the disk. In this sample
partition scheme I am using a 100 Gighabyte disk as an example.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Partitions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Linux "/boot" - roughky 128
Megabytes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. An NTFS partition reserved for Windows XP. Size
depends on on needs, I would use about 40% of the disk, so let's say it will be
40 Gigabytes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. A "Swap" partition for Linux. (1.5 top two
times the amount of physical memory (RAM) in the machine. If your system has 512
Megabytes of RAM, you'd want to make this about 768 Megabytes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. The remainder of the disk,
perhaps something like 58 Gigabytes should be allocated for the Linux root
partition "/".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Frankly, now that your disk are partitioned, it
doesn't matter whether Windows or Linux gets installed first. I tend to do Linux
first, for the reason that that has been my main desktop OS for
years.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any Linux distro will have a graphical utility in
which you explicitly tell the setup program what partitions it is supposed to
use for what purpose. The setup program will format the Linux partitions,
"/boot", "/" and the swap partition.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Continue installing Linux until it is done.Fedora
core (for example) sets up the grub loader that you can choose either
system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OK, Linux is good to go, now set up Windows XP.
Surprisingly enough, Windows will live quite happily on the second partition, as
my scheme places it. This will be obvious when you startup your computer with
the XP setup disk.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now, setup Windows X.P. Here's the catch: It is
true that the Windows setup program will nuke your MBR, where Linux installs the
grub boot loader by default. This is easy to overcome.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here's what I do. I put in my Fedora Core Linux
installation DVD and choose to boot into "Rescue Mode". It is easy to "chroot"
top your linux installation from this. The Fedora setup program tells you - it
is really simple.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then, as soon as you Linux filesystem is "root", to
reinstall grub you do this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2># grub</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>grub> root
(hd0,0) [ This io grub slang for the
first</FONT></DIV>
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size=2>
disk, first partition: we made </FONT></DIV>
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that the "/boot"
partition.]</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>grub> setup (hd0)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And that's all there is too it. You know have a
dual-boot, heterogeneous system.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Baz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bryan A. Zimmer</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>4. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=joey.rockhold@gmail.com href="mailto:joey.rockhold@gmail.com">Joey
Rockhold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=dpkhobby@earthlink.net
href="mailto:dpkhobby@earthlink.net">Dwayne Kaelberer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=tclug-list@mn-linux.org
href="mailto:tclug-list@mn-linux.org">tclug-list@mn-linux.org</A> ; <A
title=nick@chaska.net href="mailto:nick@chaska.net">Nick</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 06, 2007 2:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tclug-list] Need info</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I never allow one operating system use it's boot loader to boot
other operating systems, I always use a 3rd party boot manager, such as GAG
(super easy) or XOSL (full featured, more setup work). This way you
don't go through the hassle of over-writing the master boot record from one
operating system to the next. And, it's always best to install your
Windows OS's first since they automatically take over the master boot record,
where with every Linix distro I've tried, you always get the option of where
to install the boot loader. <BR><BR>- Joey<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 4/5/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Dwayne
Kaelberer</B> <<A
href="mailto:dpkhobby@earthlink.net">dpkhobby@earthlink.net</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Nick
wrote:<BR>><BR>> I would like to do a dual boot ( XP & Linux ) on
my computer. Where<BR>> can I take my computer for help? I live in
Chaska. I'm 68 yrs old , so<BR>> please be patient with
me.<BR>><BR>> Thanks,
Nick<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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</A><BR>><BR>Hey Nick<BR><BR> I am running Gentoo Linux dual
boot with XP right now. It is a bit<BR>tricky but with a bit of work and
reading and understanding Linux , it's<BR>not too bad. What I did with help
from some good people on the Gentoo <BR>IRC channel , was to make a FAT32
partition for Win when I partitioned<BR>for Linux. and then useing the Grub
boot loader got Gentoo up and<BR>running . Then you just install XP and it
wipes out Grub(Yikes!!)and<BR>your Linux partitions from the mbr. I did use
the Knoppix live-cd to do <BR>most of the install , that way being able to
be on IRC to ask questions.<BR>Once XP was installed I booted up the Knoppix
live-cd , and then used a<BR>small program called Testdisk to then look at
and write the Linux<BR>partitions back , and then go in and reset Grub boot
loader and Wala!<BR>you have Linux and XP as daul boot . This all is very
simple now that I<BR>went through a few hair pulling sessions , but can be
done pretty nice .<BR>I am not a very seasoned Linux guy yet but its a great
learning<BR>experience. You cna email me direct if you like and we can talk
. I'm<BR>just out west in Young America. Sorry guys for getting a bit
long<BR><BR>Dwayne
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