On 12/12 11:40 , Iznogoud wrote: > You do not have to use any of those environments (KDE,GNOME, etc) if you do > not like them. Use FVWM2, like I do. It does not use 3D acceleration and will > not be an immediate problem to running X (X11 that is). I used FVWM2 for many many years, and liked it very much. Occasionally I'm tempted to go back to it. When I taught linux administration I would often use a different desktop environment on each day of class, to show the students just how customizeable the desktop can be. I've probably seriously used a dozen different WMs and DEs over the years. They all suck in their own way. ;) Still, on the whole, it's a good experience. -- Carl Soderstrom Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com