[tclug-list] FW: john.trammell at gmail.com invited you to TCLUGon Slack

Tue Sep 20 17:15:14 CDT 2016

Good Riddance

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From: tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org <tclug-list-bounces at mn-linux.org> on behalf of Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [tclug-list] FW: john.trammell at gmail.com invited you to TCLUGon Slack

Bye.

On Sep 17, 2016 11:04 AM, "Sandwhich Eyes" <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com<mailto:sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>> wrote:
i think calling someone a thief by implying piracy is criminal. i think that is clear.
if by attacking you mean pointing out when someone is randomly throwing accusations about people and criminal intent for setting up a slack account. do you not see that? do you all not see that when people are allowed to troll that it effects everyone? i have been on this list for over 10 years. i can see why there is no traffic on here anymore. i could stay and help put rude condescending and outright criminal behavior in check. but why, you are all adults.
i would ask for a consensus on this but i would guess if people speak up they would just get flamed and accused of piracy or some other super random accusation.
i wonder what percentage of this list are decent caring people?  anyone care to speak up before i move on to other places? why am i attacking chuck, bist du blint?

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Chuck Cole <cncole at earthlink.net<mailto:cncole at earthlink.net>> wrote:
I was just "subscribed" to SLACK without my doing anything, they got my name wrong, and I have no way to unsubscribe or participate.

I'm one of the earliest members here, and have seen other attempts to commandeer the group and change its nature somehow.

"Sandwhich Eyes" seems to be a newbie here - on his own podium, and missing a few clues.

We had no discussion of SLACK here, and no proposed basis for another group using different software or leadership.
This appears to be just-another-piracy-attempt of some sort.

Has there been any discussion or preface for this?  My search showed nothing.

Chuck

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Subject: Re: [tclug-list] FW: john.trammell at gmail.com<mailto:john.trammell at gmail.com> invited you to TCLUGon Slack

I think you’ve gone way over the edge on this one, brother.

We are all free peoples to choose how we wish. But why are you attacking Chuck on his attempt to open a discussion?

On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:01 AM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com<mailto:sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>> wrote:

Let me make a few assumptions here.
someone offers you an invite to a list.
from that you, chuck cole, call him a thief.
the list has low volume because people who try to do good things get beat down, which is the opposite of support.
i personally would like to know how you ended up calling him a thief. why did you do that chuck? what is going through your mind? you may not have said it in your head when you wrote it, but clearly your predicate logic is indicative of exactly that.
no one wants to get beat down by trolls. ever. your mom would be disappointed in you, or she should be. you should let her know how you treat people. i am disappointed in you.
if you had a question about linux as a newbie would you ask it in this environment?
here is what i propose.
this new list you were invited to was started to give this list a fresh start and to try and revitalize a list to provide people with answers to their questions and not be afraid to open their email. seriously just ignore things that come in your precious email box if you are offended.
when he did this he was either called a thief; i have no idea why.  it is even more confusing that no one calls you out on this.  you may even be implying that he is a terrorist (if you meant privacy;) not sure where that would have come from either. tor is a navy project released to the public to help hide their traffic. so privacy isn't a bad thing, especially when it helps to protect our country. (put that in their because ryan had suggested tor in an old post (not saying anything bad about ryan so please don't be offended, only trying to point out that tor provides privacy and it is fresh in my mind) and while tor is neat and helping our government is good, i can't handle the latency nor do i encrypt my stuff as i have lost too much stuff from hard drive errors (no i don't use raid as i am poor. simple hard drive backup on occasion and family photos get saved off site ever 6 months or so.) so i don't use it. I feel like i need to explain myself so no one assumes terrible things about me. surely, it isn't out of line to assume that you don't know what you are talking about or how to spell privacy instead of piracy. honestly, neither make any sense other than as a means to beat someone down.

and for those of you who let this man abuse a fellow tclug user; shame on you...  stand up to cyber bullying or people will think that it is alright and will escalate to the point that a list will go from 15 or so emails a day to 1 or 2 a week which mostly contain dissention; not all of which is good. that is where all the newbies have gone . This list is now for questions in which you are passionate enough about to push through the BS.

i hope the list that you were invited to has a chance to flourish and grow. Hopefully, we can get more people interested in linux and maintain their interest with positive discussions and support. or not, whatever  just don't let people be abusive and get away with it on either list. please.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Sandwhich Eyes <sandwhicheyes at gmail.com<mailto:sandwhicheyes at gmail.com>> wrote:
TCLUG is an incredible entity. It is and has been for a long time. Every time I ask a simple question and I get More answers and direction than I could hope for. My last question which has been posted in many forums has yet to compare to the answers from this TCLUG list.
What do you mean by piracy? no one needs piracy; piracy means stealing right? Did you mean privacy? Yes we need privacy. I don't want to poop in front of people; I do still need some level of privacy.
TCLUG is a true cross section of people from so many backgrounds. The willingness to volunteer knowledge is unsurpassed. That is why I refuse to let go even though I am some distance from you all at this point.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Cole <cncole at earthlink.net<mailto:cncole at earthlink.net>> wrote:
TCLUG isn't broke, IMHO.  Do we need piracy or whatever?

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