So.. I have to weigh in here.. I don't know if people know i do the 
classes for freenas, but you can use it as a gui for both formatting 
drives and replication.. and it's free. and it has time machine..

In my environment I just has a small nas box that i backup to all of my 
systems including my macs.

I just saw rsync.net will take zfs receives and charge .06 per GB per 
month for zfs.

linda

On 9/4/15 2:28 PM, Jeff Chapin wrote:
> The script would take a little tweaking, but it could work.
>
> I, personally, know that I would get lazy at some point and fail to 
> swap the drives for months on end. I would consider taking one of the 
> drives to both locations, and getting an initial backup of each 
> location, and then mirroring that to the other drive -- and then have 
> both locations back up to both drives. Alternatively, you could backup 
> both drives to the local drive, and then mirror the two drives(you 
> could do hourly local backups, and nightly remote copies). Since rsync 
> only transfers the differences, once you have the initial backup, it's 
> likely that each day's change is fairly small. If you use the flag to 
> make rsync aware of the hardlinks, you could presumably replicate a 
> full copy of the day's hourly backups fairly quickly.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Mike Miller <mbmiller+l at gmail.com 
> <mailto:mbmiller+l at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     That is really cool!  I'll have to try something like that. I'm
>     thinking a good strategy is to have two drives, both with all the
>     same stuff on them, and I'll use them both to backup all my Linux
>     boxes (home, office, laptops).  I'll just switch between home and
>     office every week or so. That way if my house burns down or my
>     office is burglarized, I still have a copy of everything from last
>     week at the other location.
>
>     Does that seem reasonable?  The thing I'm not sure of is how that
>     strategy would work with the "time machine" concept -- I'd be
>     using two drives and swapping them weekly.
>
>     Mike
>
>
>
>     On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, Jeff Chapin wrote:
>
>         Looking at the rsync command you gave, it looks correct -- but
>         rsync can do
>         so much more when backing up!
>
>         Using the magic of rsync, and the magic of hardlinks, you can
>         make a full
>         backup, in incremental time and space. Rsync has, built into
>         it, the
>         ability to compare your most recent backup files with existing
>         backup
>         files, and if they are they same, use a hard link, and copy
>         them over if
>         they differ. This allows you to store just the files that
>         change -- but it
>         looks like a full backup every time it runs. This way, you can
>         keep, say,
>         hourly backups for the last week -- and recover an
>         accidentally deleted or
>         altered file, even after the latest backup has run.
>
>         For more details:
>         https://blog.interlinked.org/tutorials/rsync_time_machine.html
>
>
>
>         On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:21 AM, T L <tlunde at gmail.com
>         <mailto:tlunde at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Assuming that you have NOTHING on the drive that you care
>             about, I would
>             remove the factory partitioning and create a new GPT table
>             with parted.
>
>             Then, format that as ext4.
>             On Sep 3, 2015 3:17 PM, "Mike Miller"
>             <mbmiller+l at gmail.com <mailto:mbmiller%2Bl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 How to format?
>
>                 I have a couple of Linux boxes that I would like to
>                 regularly backup to a
>                 5 TB external drive.  It seems like it would be a good
>                 idea to format that
>                 drive with ext4.  Can I just do that with gparted? 
>                 The drive comes with
>                 NTFS format.  Are there any issues I should know about?
>
>
>                 Which directories to back up?
>
>                 What really needs to be backed up?  I guess if the
>                 system totally failed
>                 I'd install Linux (Ubuntu) again.  Of course /home is
>                 needed, but
>                 /usr/local and /opt often have programs I've installed
>                 and /etc will have a
>                 bunch of settings.  I guess /var can have some
>                 important stuff.  Are
>                 crontabs stored in /var?
>
>
>                 Which software to use for backup?
>
>                 I guess I want only to have in backup what is on the
>                 originating drive.
>                 So if I have deleted a file, I want it to be deleted
>                 on the backup drive,
>                 too.  I assume rsync can do this.  Would this be correct?:
>
>                 rsync -av --update --delete /home /usr/local /etc /var
>                 /opt /media/me/back
>
>
>                 TIA!
>
>                 Mike
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>         Jeff Chapin
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