Hi guys, I am perplexed lately as to what version of Linux to use. I hated the Unity desktop and wanted to keep Ubuntu as I really liked it before that change. I know that underneath it was the same as before and would work best for me, but I wanted my familiar menu back. It seems there was some attempt to keep it intact and there was a short time when on the next update to Ubuntu, the classic look was made available. But later on this seemed to disappear and I went over to Mint as it seemed to me that it was the closest thing to having Ubuntu. I think it used the same repository, but not sure about that. My issues have been only that the video ability of linux lags behind so much from what my extremely hated Microsoft would enable me to use. I used nero linux for a while last year until my paid for install suddenly would not run and said it was expired. I bought the app from Nero and they did not say it would end or only be good for one year. I digress a bit talking about that and I will have to see if Nero will still honor my version of the program now. But I would have to use some video conversion programs only available on MS and kept hoping there would be some progress in the video realm with linux, but it seems to have stalled or even gotten worse now. Does anyone in the linux field care if they can deal with the videos in an equal way being done in MS world? Number two issue is the NDAS open source code is available to use in whatever way is wanted and is given away I am told. No one with ability to fix it does anything with it so I have to use a windows computer to use the windows version to see my ndas drives and then use some kind of network windows shared for my linux computer to see them. I like the ndas idea as I can have drives on my network which do not have an address as such and can not be seen from outside the network. Only computers in the network can see them as they are addressed by the ndas software. I want to get rid of all my windows machines, but the lack of doing some of these things in linux is stopping me. I am not good at the command line now days. I am getting a bit old and cant remember the various commands easily. So I rely on the GUI and it is not doing much for me. Also, just to comment on the previous days postings about which linux variety is used and liked most. I want to stay with Ubuntu so is there a way to do it better than using Mint? I think it was great to see which distros guys with real expertise were using. I will read a lot of those postings again. Perhaps we could have a meeting dedicated to this topic and extoll the virtues of the various distros? Thanks for any advice you may give me. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:11:12 AM CST From: tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: tclug-list Digest, Vol 121, Issue 49 > Send tclug-list mailing list submissions to > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tclug-list-request at mn-linux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tclug-list-owner at mn-linux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tclug-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Which linux do you use? (B-o-B De Mars) > 2. Re: html5 on 3.13.etc kernel (Jeff Chapin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 08:00:05 -0600 > From: B-o-B De Mars <mr.chew.baka at gmail.com> > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Which linux do you use? > Message-ID: <54AD3BE5.5030309 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 1/7/2015 2:14 AM, paul g wrote: > > Mr. Bob, would you be able to talk with a noober like me about Slackware > > sometime? > > > > I am interested in your post. Thank you for your time. > > > > Yes.I would be happy to talk about Slackware with you. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 09:10:03 -0600 > From: Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com> > To: TCLUG Mailing List <tclug-list at mn-linux.org> > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel > Message-ID: > <CAJt84+PCOfWXqUDd8ymp0Z0AHpbpA0QQoYHN4DotKifRhxO2Kw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Did you install flashplugin-nonfree via apt? Is it the latest version > provided by Mint? > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:30 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I am trying to play 'old music videos' - via - 'youtube' on > > Linux-Mint17-Mate with kernel -3.14.13-031413-generic-under-firefox 34.0' > > Currently I have the 11.2.202.425 flash installed. The HTML5 Google player > > makes Firefox 34.0' crash after 2-3 songs if that. I think it may be > > something to do with Cisco systems video Codec. Sorry to ask such a dumb > > question. Thank you for your time. > > > > 0. problem--> I am trying to play 'all kinds of' music videos via youtube > > on my linuxmint computer. > > > > paul g > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 04:11:39 -0600 > > > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:44 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Can you take any time off your schedule to help? I apologize for being a > > noob. > > > > > > You have to state what you are trying to do before anyone can help you. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and happy new year. > > > > paul g > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 03:02:41 -0600 > > > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel > > > > I'm not sure what you are trying to say, or how this relates to the rest > > of this email chain. > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:24 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Well, look closely -if you have time- and you can see firefox put in /opt > > now on any current Mint. Thanks for helping me by the way. I kindof learned > > to really respect you even though I am 'slow'. > > > > paul g > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:12:25 -0600 > > > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel > > > > no. > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 5:12 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Have you tried out Lightspark at all personally? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:39:04 -0600 > > > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel > > > > I'm running Version: 11.2.202.406 of flash, so not much older. > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:36 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > What version of flash are you running over there? I attached a screenshot > > of the installed plugins currently on my system. So I should run an older > > version --> like which version then? I could manually install a version via > > terminal I suppose. Thanks for helping as I am sure your aware of my > > struggles trying to figure any of this stuff out. > > > > [image: Emoji] - Happy Holidays > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:16:16 -0600 > > > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel > > > > You can also click on the warning and authorize flash to run either once, > > or always. > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Jeff Chapin <chapinjeff at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUJMZbNR0d0 > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:12 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Would you please break down how exactly how I can 'authorize Firefox to > > use the outdated flash plugin'? Sorry to bug you. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:04:06 -0600 > > > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel > > > > Do you need to authorize firefox to use the outdated flash plugin, as > > previously mentioned? > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 3:46 PM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > You know I just took a little break from it. I did a hard reboot logged in > > and opened Opera went to YouTube and the music-videos work fine. It looks > > as is Firefox and not Opera is having the issue. I could swear though that > > Opera was not working with the music - videos earlier this morning. Could I > > ask for your advice and take on what you would recommend I do? Thanks for > > your help. > > > > [image: Emoji] - Happy Holidays > > > > Paul G > > > > > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:58:36 -0600 > > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] html5 on 3.13.etc kernel > > > > > > Now that you mention it, I think I have been doing that for quite some > > > time, too. That's most likely it. > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Shawn Fertch <sfertch at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I thought Adobe killed Flash for Linux. I run into this issue myself on > > > > YouTube, etc but havent had time to fix it. So, I just tell it to use > > the > > > > old version of flash even if it is outdated. This is on current Fedora. > > > > > > > > On Dec 31, 2014 1:30 PM, "Jeff Chapin" <chapinjeff at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> The likelihood of this being related to ISP behavior is slim to none. > > > >> > > > >> Have you installed flash? If you don't want to use the html5 player, I > > > >> believe you have to have flash installed and working correctly. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jeff Chapin > > > President, CedarLug, retired > > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > _______________________________________________ > > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - 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