NTP, or Network time Protocol, is used to automatically syncronise time across various machines. It basically uses a semi-distributed model to get time from trusted sources. Your BIOS clock isn't an accurate timekeeping device, anyway, so why trust it. # apt-get install ntp ntpdate Will install init files to do it all for you. On Sat, 3 Jan 2015, paul g wrote: > NTP? excuse me.. this is kernel 3.13 linux-Minty-Mate.... can you help me? > Emoji > > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 01:44:58 -0600 > From: tclug at freakzilla.com > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse to set at > the same time. > > Now I haven't read any of the other messages in this thread, but isn't > this exactly what NTP is for? > > On Sat, 3 Jan 2015, paul g wrote: > > > I just performed a soft reboot on the machine. Entered the bios and set th > e > > 24 hour clock to proper 'correct time' and once again upon, logging in > > 'time' was displayed differently/inproperly. The concern here is if 'Bios > > time is off' <--machine clock' . No entity should have or have the right t > o > > proper UTC time. > > > > Thanks. > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > __ > > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 01:29:19 -0600 > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse to set at > > the same time. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:55 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > Well would you be able to recommend a command besides the > > following command if you were trying to set a system clock to > > tie in with a software clock on a 3.13etc kernel under Debian? > > > > hwclock --hctosys > > > > > > Why do you want another command? > > > > I think the above could have saved me alot of pain because if I > > were to have to have done = sudo sed -i s/UTC=yes/UTC=no/ > > /etc/default/rcS > > > > it would have been stuck in /etc/default/rcS and what about > > updates that could have locked the machine up at > > sometime/somepoint. > > > > > > I'm not sure why you think that. > > > > > > Give me your opinion if you have time please? Emoji > > > > > > I don't understand the question. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > __ > > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:47:04 -0600 > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock refuse > > to set at the same time. > > > > Yes. If you use the hwclock command you do not need to use sed > > at all. > > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:44 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > The command: --> sudo hwclock --systohc <--sets the Bios > > clock to the Software UTC clock without giving any output? > > > > I did not even need to use 'sed' yet. > > > > cool. > > > > Am I right about this? > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > __ > > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:41:26 -0600 > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC clock > > refuse to set at the same time. > > > > Many commands in Linux will only output errors. This is > > one of them. > > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:39 AM, paul g <pj.world at hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > The error I expected was an output via --> > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc > > > > once entered into the terminal as following: > > > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock --systohc > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ > > > > was the entire output of the command. I guess if you > > put it that way though it would be like the good > > working 'apt-key list' command on a 3.13 machine vs. > > 3.2 <--why did I bring that up again don't ask just > > don't ask. > > > > I'm waiting for your help. > > > > Thank you. > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > __ > > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 00:32:49 -0600 > > From: chapinjeff at gmail.com > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux UTC > > clock refuse to set at the same time. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:29 AM, paul g > > <pj.world at hotmail.com> wrote: > > Helps alot! > > > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock > > Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:22:06 AM CST > > -0.078578 seconds > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ > > > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock > > Sat 03 Jan 2015 12:23:02 AM CST > > -0.051555 seconds > > > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ sudo hwclock > > --systohc > > paul at desk/paul-Lenovo ~ $ > > > > obviously ^ fails with the --systohc > > extension. > > > > > > What do you mean it obviously fails? I see no error. > > > > > > <--why? <--every time I go into bios and > > change the time via biox I get an incorrect > > time on desktop. I am going to be looking into > > this; i'm about 7 hours off by the way. I > > thank you for your time and your help. > > > > > > Yeah, your hwclock is set to UTC and you live in a > > timezone 7 hours off from UTC. That's to be expected. > > > > > > > > Emoji - paul g > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > __ > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2015 23:42:31 -0600 > > From: kelly.black at penguinpackets.com > > Subject: Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and Linux > > UTC clock refuse to set at the same time. > > > > Paul, > > To set the system clock to the hardware clock > > hwclock --hctosys > > Other way around: > > hwclock --systohc > > You should be able to check the hardware clock > > by issuing: > > hwclock > > That will give you an idea of how far off the > > hardware clock is. If it is skewed far > > enough, you will probably want to go in to the > > bios on a reboot and update it. If it does > > not stick past power outages, you might want > > to replace the cmos battery on the > > motherboard. > > Hope that helps. > > > > Fri Jan 02 2015 10:11:42 PM CST > > from "paul g" > > <pj.world at hotmail.com> Subject: > > Re: [tclug-list] Bios clock and > > Linux UTC clock refuse to set at > > the same time. > > The question is 'how can I set the hardware > > clock to coorolate with the Linux clock'. > > > > My apologies. > > > > Happy New year and thank you with the updatedb > > stuff' meant alot. > > > > paul g > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG > > Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing > > List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Chapin > > President, CedarLug, retired > > President, UNIPC, "I'll get around to it" > > President, UNI Scuba Club > > Senator, NISG, retired > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - > Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > >