I agree, a LUG is were you can and do get a broader education about computers and computer issues. (Usually with a little bit of a Linux slant !-) But is a good place to learn, and share your knowledge. I have always found the meeting *VERY* useful. And was very disappointed to see the TCLug stop having regular meeting. And had for years tried to find a somewhere to have a meeting. Now I personally am not a fan of meeting at the U of M, and I don't like to meet week nights. So with those constraints I felt it was easier to start my own group, and chose to no go through the TCLug. So that is how Penguins Unbound came about. So I would encourage all to come and check out the Penguins Unbound meeting. I would love to have someone come and talk about any of the topics, and I plan on drawing up the calendar for next year in December. The best place to get info about the Penguins Unbound is at the website http://www.PenguinsUnbound.com. And I do post all meeting announcements to the TCLug list, so you can just watch this mailing list. Thanks. ==>brian. Brian Dolan-Goecke Robert Nesius wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom > <chrome at real-time.com <mailto:chrome at real-time.com>> wrote: > > > > Really, there's not nearly as much need for the LUG as there used to be. > Linux is much easier to install, communication between everyone is > better, > and Linux has gotten far enough into the mainstream that there's not > as much > need for advocacy as there used to be. Linux didn't destroy all > opponents in > the OS wars; but it did force the other vendors (M$ and Apple) to > get a lot > better. > > > I generally agree with this. I'm far more interested in the Free/Open > Source Software movements and issues than Linux itself as an OS. Linux > as a platform - great! But once Linux is on the box - then what? So > my focus area is a bit broader, but LUG's seem to be the best place to > find like-minded people, including topics like: > > * Licensing (understanding the GPL) > * Linux & F/OSS in the Enterprise > - how to integrate into a windows-dominated environment > - How to provide services to windows clients transparently > - authentication and identity sourcing > - Workflows and tool chains > * More broadly, our privacy rights > * Standards, and standards corruption by for-profit entities. > * Developing solutions on Linux with F/OSS tool chains > - web develepment being a key area of interest for me. > * Coming changes/new features in the kernel. > > > In the end, that's a pretty good result. Once again, the > (relatively) free market helps consumers win in the end. :) > > > Free (liberated) software helped more than markets, imho. > > > > So the LUG is to a greater percentage what it always had been... a > social > club for geeks. :) > > > Yar. > > -Rob > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > http://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list