I would certainly go for the GIAC if you're at all interested in security. Security Essentials 101 gives you a good base knowledge to both Windows and UNIX/Linux security concerns. I've never really given MCSE's much consideration, but then again, I've never concerned myself with Windows to any great extent. When I hired my replacement at LTi, way back when, I choose a 18 year old highschool graduate with a good "bedside manner", attention to detail, and experience "in the field" with installing and maintaining both Windows and Linux machines. I would have hired Lamer, but he wasn't interested. ;-) Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled geekiness. Chad