window managers that get installed, everything is in the menus already, and you can choose from about 8 different window managers on login. Plus, it has a ton of goodies that don't normally come with other distros. nmap, aterm (modified rxvt that has all the features of Eterm and a small memory footprint), colorized gcc so compile errors and warnings are highlighted, vi with syntax highlighting, and a ton of other cool things. Mandrake was originally based off Redhat, but they've since gone their own way. The install is nicer than Redhat's, in fact, on install it will download and install crypto packages like OpenSSH, OpenSSL libs, apache with mod_ssl, cryptographic kernel extensions, and other stuff (you have to choose Expert install for this). You can also install ReiserFS on install and format partitions with it, except it won't set up your initrd to load the ReiserFS module on boot, so your /boot and / still have to be ext2. I still use Redhat on servers, but mostly because Dell sucks and ships their servers with proprietary RAID cards and they only have a module disk for Redhat. For the last year or so, I've been using Mandrake for a general desktop machine and it works excellent. Jay -----Original Message----- From: Blake [mailto:minibiker at prontomail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 10:18 AM To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org Subject: [TCLUG:22353] Slackware/Caldera/Installfest/kPPP Someone bring a copy of Slackware and RedHat to the installfest, I need a (burned) copy of both...Caldera didnt come with minicom, and kPPP doesnt dial right. Someone told me that Slack comes with minicom. Heres a log of what kPPP does: ATZ ;turn on modem OK ;response from modem ATDT6122527007 ;dial mr.net OK ;response from modem After that, kPPP insists on sitting there and pooping on itself...(I have an external modem btw) -Blake (Pizza is Linux compatable) ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tclug-list-unsubscribe at mn-linux.org For additional commands, e-mail: tclug-list-help at mn-linux.org