I don't have Vontage. I have DSL and I don't pay anywhere near that much. I use my Cell phone for all long distance. I think your bill is a bit messed up. It looks like you are getting double billed for DSL, the first 2 lines. Dump Qwest.net as your ISP, get either visi.com or real-time.com I have visi.com. Visi rates: $28 to qwest, $19.95 to visi Real-time rates: $28 to qwest, $25 to real-time By changing your ISP you will have to go without spam for a while :-D For the $28 to quest and the $19.95 to visi I get 1.5mb down and 1mb up. Dump Caller ID and go with an unlisted number I believe it's $5.00 Get rid of the long distance stuff, use your cell phone and calling cards. "Lin-backer Inside wire repair plan" WTH is that, dump it. I have kids so having a phone in the house at all times is important. Qwest is more expensive when you don't have a phone line ($33.00) Sam. Ben Bargabus wrote: >Sorry for the off topic post but I remember reading a bit about this at >some point and I'm fairly sure it was on this list. I'm getting a >little sick of my $120/month phone bills and was thinking about going to >Vonage to cut that back a bit. I seem to remember someone here posting >that you can have Qwest DSL without having Qwest phone service, is that >[still] true? Looking at my itemized bill from Qwest I have the >following items... > >Digital Subscriber Line Res - $14.95 >Qwest Choice DSL Dlx - $28.00 >Caller ID - $6.95 >Line-backer Inside Wire Repair Plan - $4.75 >Voice Messaging - $6.95 >Qwest.net Internet Services - $21.95 >[Misc local fees] - $13.52 >[Misc AT&T fees] - $10.79 >[long distance tax and surcharge] - $1.82 > >If I dump Qwest other than for my DSL connection do I just pay the >$28.00 Qwest DSL Dlx fee or do I still pay for the basic line fee too? >Does Vonage have similar taxes and access charges to Qwest or are they >truly $25/month out the door? Qwest.net doesn't do a thing for me as a >service provider so continuing to pay $21.95/month for them seems silly, >can someone recommend a good but cheap alternative for DSL access as an >ISP? I really don't need anything but the other end of my connection. >I don't care about static IPs, I don't need phone support, I don't need >web server space, I don't even need a POP account. The only things I'd >like are that they keep up with the 640kb I get from Qwest and that they >don't cap total transfer bandwidth over any period of time (not that I >really transfer that much but I don't want to have to worry about it). > >Vonage users, did you have to purchase any hardware to make the system >work? Did the hardware they provide (if any) just plug right into your >network hub/switch and run? Anything you wish you'd known ahead of time >that you can pass on to a potential customer? > >Again, sorry for being off topic. >Ben. > >_______________________________________________ >TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota >Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org >Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery >tclug-list at mn-linux.org >https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list