Debian isn't hard to install...really. :p Most people will tell you the Debian installer sucks. It doesn't. The default installer fills a very valid need: An installer that can handle all hardware architectures supported by Debian, be flexible on media type, and a list of other requirments. The mistake most people make (In my opinion!) when installing Debian with the default installer is to install packages. Every time I install a new machine, I just use the installer to get a booting extremely minimal Debian system. All it can really do is connect to the network and apt-get using dselect, aptitude, synaptic, or just apt-get install wever-it-is-I-want. That's all you need to get going. My opinion of course…some people might actually want to do some hardware automatic configuration…but why? You'll learn more about Linux if you figure out how to do it yourself! Anyway, if the default installer isn't your thing, check out all the ways you can install Debian here: http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html What's stopping you from installing Debian? Surly you don't really need an install fest do you? Odds are you can get it working by the time an install fest rolls around, and by then you might even be able to help at the install fest! Do a little research, ask some questions to TCLUG, accept that every little thing like your sound card and wireless network might not work right away…but as long as you can get say, X and a network connection…you have a mass of tools available to try to figure out how to configure the rest of it. ;-) Take a deep breath, pick your installer, and have some fun with your PC! Good luck…we'll be lurking here. :D -- Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://andy.zibnet.us A password is like your underwear; Change it frequently, don't share it with others, and don't ask to borrow someone else's. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list