I believe MCI/Sprint has colo facilities in the old Federal reserve building. Connected to 3 different power grids, and massive fiber coming in from all angles. You should be able to choose whomever you like for connectivity too, just because it's run by MCI doesn't mean you have to use their bandwidth. I think others have some facilities there also. FYI, I've found that Time Warner Telecom is obscenely cheap for DS3's and larger. If you're looking for a good place outside of MPLS, ATT has an excellent facility near Times Square. It's an 18 story building which used to house all of their long distance equipment during the cold war. No windows, huge white building. Walls are 3 feet thick of reinforced concrete, enough generator power to run the place for 3 - 6 months off the grid, and sleeping facilities and food supplies for something like 1000 people for 4 months. The front doors are glass, but they are 1 foot thick and leaded to keep radiation out. They have another near chicago which is a building inside of a building, and supposed to be pretty good. I haven't been to that one though. ~jay On Nov 26, 2004, at 2:54 PM, Tom Penney wrote: > All advice and experiance is apreciated, thank you. Scot and Matthew > > Berbee is a brand new facility, mostly empty actually, but they do > have man traps, biometric hand scanners, redundent utility feeds, I > didn't ask about kevlar walls. They did only have one power generator > with plans for and space for an identical second big catapiller 12 > cylandar beast, huge. they also have redundant HVAC, multi zone dry > pipe fire system, the smoke detection can sence the smoke in the > clothes of a smoker comming inside from having a smoke. It all sounds > like overkill to me but what do I know. > > It sounds like they are working off the same data center > specifications needed to get some kind of elite certification that > Equinix must have. They mentioned they did not have the cert yet, I > don't remember what the cert was but one of the things they had to do > to compleat it was get the second generator installed. > > -- > Tom Penney > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org > Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota Help beta test TCLUG's potential new home: http://plone.mn-linux.org Got pictures for TCLUG? Beta test http://plone.mn-linux.org/gallery tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list