Wow! I decided to down load the Gentoo ISO's and build from the 2 CD's. I'm getting (remember I have basic DSL) 26.0Kbs down load form Seren Innovations. Seren is in Minneapolis it's a spin off of NSP. The connection is rock solid at 26.0 Kbs Hardware A friend of mine wants a gaming machine (M$) the price point is about $600 and he wants it to come from a local provider. Video is an ATI 9800 with 256MB of DDR. This is a list of the hardware I'm looking at for him, any comments or advice on the hardware? I looked at both General Nano Systems and Tranmicro as the places to purchase the parts. General Nano has much better prices then Tranmicro. Processor AMD Athalon XP ? 2.xghz 333mhz-FSB 512K Cache Motherboard Abit KV7 KT600 Sound,Lan,133ATA 333/400mhz-FSB or Asus A7N8X Sound, Lan, 133ATA 333/400mhz-FSB or Gigabyte 7N400-L Sound, Lan 133ATA 333/400mhz-FSB Memory PC3200 333mhz 512 MB Case Raidmax 868WS 420 watt PS CDRW Plexor DVDROM Sony Keyboard & Mouse(Optical) Logitech PS2 / USB _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list