I guess I'm more familiar with Smoothwall, the "parent" of IPCOP. I see absolutely no reason to need their DHCP server IP address or gateway. With Smoothwall you just tell it to use DHCP on the RED interface and it receives it's IP address from the ISP. With that said, I have done traceroutes out of my LAN to somewhere like Google and picked up some of my ISP's gateways along the way. Another issue that I thought I might run into is the MAC address problem like you did. The ISP has linked the customer's connection to their network to a specific MAC address, which can be a pain if you originally had a software firewall on a PC and now wish to put a hardware firewall in the middle. Well, thank goodness with Linux, there is a way to "spoof" the MAC address. I looked into just such a situation for my Smoothwall, but ended up not needing it with Comcast (was AT&T). I have actually changed the machine (and NICs) that my Smoothwall runs on 3 times over the course of two years and have never had connectivity issues. I have the instructions saved for Smoothwall if anyone needs them, they may apply to IPCOP as it was based offof Smoothwall. Shawn wrote: > I think I posted this question up a while ago, but don't recall an answer. > > I've been trying to get an IPCop firewall setup for a friend of mine using US Cable (Warpdriveonline) as his internet provider. I'm using IPCop to do so. I've tried at least 10 times now to get the DHCP server address information from the ISP, and they won't give it out. They'll give out DNS server, but no DHCP or gateway info. > > On Friday, someone else I know was getting it (cable modem) installed. I asked them to get the info from the tech, and they were told "Firewalls do not require the DHCP, or gateway address. You don't need that information." I also asked them to inquire about MAC assignments, and they were told they don't use MAC assignments. > > All of that is a crock, IMO. They do use MAC assignments. I brought my laptop up to see if I could get the DHCP info, and it wouldn't allow my laptop on the network. Even after sitting for quite a while connected. I was getting a link light, and could even do a crossover to the desktop and get connectivity between machines, but not with the ISP. > > Is there a way to force them to give up the information? I'm down to the last step of dragging my desktop up to my friend's house, swap NIC's out to see if I can get the DHCP server address by cating some of the network files. Not sure which one I'd go after (Slackware), but I think it registers the DHCP server info somewhere. > > Is there another alternative to using IPCop and not specify the DHCP server and still get connectivity? I've read most of the current IPCop thread, but didn't see much relating to the problem I'm encountering. > > Any other ideas someone might have on what to do? > -- Todd Young 7079 Dawn Ave. E. Inver Grove Heights, MN 55076 _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list