On Sun, Nov 23, 2003 at 11:19:55AM -0600, Shawn wrote:
> I think I posted this question up a while ago, but don't recall an answer.
> 
> I've been trying to get an IPCop firewall setup for a friend of mine 
> using US Cable (Warpdriveonline) as his internet provider.  I'm using 
> IPCop to do so.  I've tried at least 10 times now to get the DHCP server 
> address information from the ISP, and they won't give it out.  They'll 
> give out DNS server, but no DHCP or gateway info.

You don't need the DHCP server address, even if you had it, what would 
you do with it?

> On Friday, someone else I know was getting it (cable modem) installed. 
> I asked them to get the info from the tech, and they were told "Firewalls 
> do not require the DHCP, or gateway address.  You don't need that information." 
> I also asked them to inquire about MAC assignments, and they were told
> they don't use MAC assignments. 

Again, you don't need the DHCP server or gateway address. And it is possible
they don't use a MAC address based access list. The DOCSIS specification
(what cable modems use) has an option to limit the number of MAC addresses
that are allowed to pass traffic. After the cable modem sees an address, it
will ignore all others until it's rebooted. 

> All of that is a crock, IMO.  They do use MAC assignments.  I brought 
> my laptop up to see if I could get the DHCP info, and it wouldn't allow
> my laptop on the network.  Even after sitting for quite a while connected.
> I was getting a link light, and could even do a crossover to the desktop
> and get connectivity between machines, but not with the ISP.

See above, did you connect directly to the cable modem, and power cycle it?

> 
> Is there a way to force them to give up the information?  I'm down to
> the last step of dragging my desktop up to my friend's house, swap NIC's
> out to see if I can get the DHCP server address by cating some of the
> network files.  Not sure which one I'd go after (Slackware), but I think
> it registers the DHCP server info somewhere.

No, you cannot force them to do anything, nor do you need the information,
again, what would you do with the information if it were given to you?

> Is there another alternative to using IPCop and not specify the DHCP
> server and still get connectivity?  I've read most of the current IPCop
> thread, but didn't see much relating to the problem I'm encountering.

Why does IPCop want the DHCP server?


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