KDE is really what's killing your performance. I have a P266 MMX Crapaq laptop, and GNOME and KDE just crawl, even with 96mb ram (the max for this laptop) But blackbox + a few xterms and Mozilla Firebird or Opera isn't bad at all, and just perfect for configuring switches, routers, and some ocasional web browsing. I have a IBM usb Optical Scroll mini-mouse that I carry around with it and I love the thing. It's my second favorite after the mouse I have attached to my home PC. Get some more RAM, try some hdpram magic, drop KDE. Andrew S. Zbikowski | http://www.ringworld.org A password is like your underwear; Change it frequently, don't share it with others, and don't ask to borrow someone else's. _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list