And the installer (RH in my case) DOES install grub, but when your installation doesn't come up the first time and needs some option on the kernel line (how do you _add_ vga=ask in grub and then boot?), the ability to do that should be either obvious when you're doing it, or documented otherwise. With grub (whose interface I now can manipulate -- albeit painfully) it's neither. Try this (pay attention to the space before hitting <tab>): grub> root (hd0, <tab> Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist vs. grub> root (hd0,<tab> Possible partitions are: Partition num: 0, Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xde Partition num: 1, Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 etc... grub> help boot boot: boot Boot the OS/chain-loader which has been loaded. grub> help load Let's see. The "setup" command actually does an install. The "kernel" command does a load. It's taken me a long time to find this out, and it's not nice. I don't say that you shouldn't use grub. I just say you should not recommend it to newbies. -- Gerry Skerbitz gsker at tcfreenet.org On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Matthew S. Hallacy wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:41:50PM -0600, Gerald Skerbitz wrote: > > I've heard the recommendation of grub many times on this list and it's > > inspired me several times to try to install it but I've been > > unsuccessful. > > This is exactly why your distributions installer should do it for you. > -- > Matthew S. Hallacy FUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified > http://www.poptix.net GPG public key 0x01938203 > > _______________________________________________ > TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota > http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list > _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list