<I say> thanks you're a peach!!! <you said> The quickest way to do it is thusly: (from the console and no xdm/kdm/gdm etc..running) 1) edit your /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc 2) comment out everything 3) add this to the bottom exec fluxbox 4) save and exit 5) startx That is a very quick and dirty way to change your window manager. You can also use that same thing in ~/.xession <--- I think that is the proper file but I am probably wrong about that. Anyway, I am sure someone will post a much more comprehensive way to solve your issue. This way should get you up and running though. -- Linux Administrator || Technology Specialist || Wifi Engineer http://autonomous.tv/~spencer/resume/ || spencer at autonomous.tv Key fingerprint = 173B 8760 E59F DBF8 6FD2 68F8 ABA2 AB08 49C7 4754 _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list