I know of two Minnesota State government websites which accept credit card information over a non-secure connection, i.e. HTTP instead of HTTPS. There may be more. I just happen to know of two of them. What is up with that? Why isn't the state government concerned with the threat of identity theft? For reference, one of the two sites I know of is here: http://dutchelm.dps.state.mn.us/dvsinfo/mainframepublic.asp Mike _______________________________________________ TCLUG Mailing List - Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota http://www.mn-linux.org tclug-list at mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list