Clay, I bet the TCSA and TCBUG groups would be interested in a SAN
presentation too.  In fact, I bet some of the TCSA regulars have some
good experience and knowledge to share too.

Do you see what happened here Nate?  This is how the man operates
(that's Clay, the man, not "The Man")  Now you're getting roped into
being a speaker :)

Maybe we should save this for next month's meeting, so we can give more
notice.  I agree with Nate, this will be a hot topic with lots of
interest.  That would also give Nate time to prepare his presentation,
hand-outs, bake the cookies, and get the FC HBA "free samples" ordered!

On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 16:02, Clay Fandre wrote:
> Wow, so much information but nobody to present it. Would one of you
> "fountains of knowledge" be willing to give a quick overview at this
> Saturday's meeting?
> 
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2003, jeffr at odeon.net wrote:
> 
> > 
> > IIRC, Sistina was working on a project called GFS, and they eventually 
> > changed it to a non-open source project.  A group is working from the last 
> > open source release of GFS at http://opengfs.sourceforge.net/
> > 
> > Also, last time I looked (a couple of years ago) GFS/OpenGFS didn't
> > support running samba or nfs on the gfs distributed file system.  You may
> > want to check with Sistina to see if this has changed for their code base.  
> > If it has, and you're looking for a turnkey product, then they may be your
> > best option.
> > 
> > Something else that may be useful is NBD http://www.xss.co.at/linux/NBD/
> > 
> > The Network Block Device project would let you aggregate the disk space
> > from several different systems over a network to a master system, and then
> > export all of that storage space via nfs or samba or some other protocol
> > to all of your other systems.
> > 
> > There's also AFS and Coda.
> > 
> > http://www.unc.edu/atn/dci/dci_components/afs/
> > 
> > http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/
> > 
> > I've played with nbd a little, but nothing in a production environment.  
> > It doesn't provide any sort of data integretity checking like the others 
> > do.  You could however do software raid across your nbd providing systems, 
> > which would provide at least some redundancy.
> > 
> > In other words, you'd have for example 4 storage servers, each with some
> > form of redundant storage (raid 5 probably, either hardware or software).
> > Then, on your master server you build a software raid 5 out of the nbd
> > storage servers, losing 1 server's worth of storage but protecting against 
> > any one storage server failing.  Of course, your master server is still a 
> > single point of failure, as is the network switch for your storage lan.  
> > 
> > I don't know how any of these solutions perform for day to day usage.
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Brent Friedman wrote:
> > 
> > > I was asked to look into feasibility for setting up a Linux (or *bsd)
> > > based SAN. I know there have been some kernel mods for this kind of
> > > stuff, but I don't know their current status, and quick googles show
> > > something called netMD at a conference in ottawa, but no website for it.  
> > > I used to work at the Utech Center near campus, and I think the people
> > > at Sistina were doing something like this.
> > > 
> > > Because of various development environments, I need the SAN to be
> > > reachable from anything (meaning Windoze, AIX, Solaris or other Linux
> > > boxen).  I am not very versant in vfs, lvm, etc., but I have the time to
> > > deal with a manual.
> > > 
> > > Any comments on what will/won't work, or suggestions on sites/mailing
> > > lists for linux SANs?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Brent Friedman
> > > 
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